[Statistical Physics] Probability of finding # photons in the mode

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Homework Statement



A cavity contains black body radiation at temperature T = 500 K. Consider an optical mode in the cavity with frequency ω=2.5x10[itex]^{13}[/itex] Hz. Calculate

a) the probability of finding 0 photons in the mode
b) the probability of finding 1 photon in the mode
c) the mean number of photons in the mode.


Homework Equations



Possibly <n> = [itex]\frac{1}{exp(\frac{\hbar \omega}{k_{b} T})}[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



Plugging the numbers into the equation above gives the answer to c (I think), which comes out to 1.855. However I thought that you could only have 0 or 1 photons in a given mode.

Not sure how to go about a) and b).
 

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Photons are bosons. Bosons do not follow Pauli's exclusion principle. Any number (from zero to infinity) of photons may occupy any given mode.
 
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Ah ok, so the mean number of photons might still be ok.

How do I go about answering a and b?
 
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Just out of curiosity: how can you get <n> > 1 if all the factors in the exponential are > 0 ?
 
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You've just made me realize the equation should have a -1 on the bottom. Can't edit my original post for some reason.
 
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Ok think I've got the relevant equation for a) and b) now.

For any future readers:

P(n) = [itex]\frac{1 - exp(-\frac{ħw}{kT})}{exp(\frac{nħw}{kT})}[/itex]

where n is the number of photons in the mode.
 
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Ok think I've got the relevant equation for a) and b) now.

For any future readers:

P(n) = [itex]\frac{1 - exp(-\frac{ħw}{kT})}{exp(-\frac{nħw}{kT})}[/itex]

where n is the number of photons in the mode.

Note that in your expression P(n) → ∞ as n→∞. So, it can't be correct since a probability can't be greater than 1.

Maybe you need to switch the numerator and denominator.
 
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Flucky
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Ooh thanks for pointing that out, I accidentally put a minus in there.
 

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