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Homework Statement:
- Strain and change in length problem
Homework Equations:
- Strain and change in length what is the difference ?
Strain and change in length what is the difference ?
strain no units and change of length are in m.What are the units of each?
So the difference is ...strain no units and change of length are in m.
Well, technically the units are "1", but what units are in the numerator and denominator of the fraction that equals that "1"?strain no units
So the difference is ...
Honestly I need answers not questionWell, technically the units are "1", but what units are in the numerator and denominator of the fraction that equals that "1"?
We don't give answers to schoolwork at the PF. When you look up mechanical strain in your textbook or on Wikipedia (see stress-strain), what units are listed? You can also use Google Images to search for stress strain curves, and a few of them will show you what I'm asking about...Honestly I need answers not question
I see, I just want the answer so I can learn nothing special but I understand you have rule.We don't give answers to schoolwork at the PF. When you look up mechanical strain in your textbook or on Wikipedia (see stress-strain), what units are listed? You can also use Google Images to search for stress strain curves, and a few of them will show you what I'm asking about...
What is your understanding of the difference?Homework Statement:: Strain and change in length problem
Homework Equations:: Strain and change in length what is the difference ?
Strain and change in length what is the difference ?
Thank you.I see, I just want the answer so I can learn nothing special but I understand you have rule.
I try to answer my question by looking for the units of these two .
Because in the formula strain = change in lenght over lenght , I always thought that strain is the change in lenght .What is your understanding of the difference?
Well it s true that it s better to see why things are there not just write because are just that way .Thank you.
And BTW, the main reason I'm asking for you to look more into this is not just because of the PF rules. Understanding the units of stress and strain is an important step in your education. The fact that the strain is "unitless" is not trivial -- there is a reason for it. It's s good step in your continued learning to figure this out, IMO.
Right, strain is the fractional change in length.Because in the formula strain = change in lenght over lenght , I always thought that strain is the change in lenght .
Just to kick the dead horse a bit:Right, strain is the fractional change in length.
If a 3m bar is subjected to a longitudinal strain of 1/1000 it extends by 3mm. If we think of the bar as three 1m bars end-to-end, each is subject to the same strain, so each extends 1mm.
good explanation , thanksRight, strain is the fractional change in length.
If a 3m bar is subjected to a longitudinal strain of 1/1000 it extends by 3mm. If we think of the bar as three 1m bars end-to-end, each is subject to the same strain, so each extends 1mm.
Just to kick the dead horse a bit:
Change of length is what we call an "extensive" property, it means that if you add up change of length from each part of the bar, you get the change of length of the entire bar. This is true regardless of how you split the bar up.
Strain is what we call an "intensive" property. It is a property that does not add between different parts of the bar and (assuming equal stress and material properties) is the same everywhere on the bar regardless of the size of the part you select.
Other examples of extensive properties: mass, momentum, force
Other examples of intensive properties: density, pressure, temperature
So if I have 2 bars of lengths 1 cm and 10 cm, and I stretch them each 1 cm, the strain in the smaller bar (which is now 100% longer than its original length) is the same as the strain in the larger bar (which is now only 10 % longer than its original length)?Because in the formula strain = change in lenght over lenght , I always thought that strain is the change in lenght .
So if I have 2 bars of lengths 1 cm and 10 cm, and I stretch them each 1 cm, the strain in the smaller bar (which is now 100% longer than its original length) is the same as the strain in the larger bar (which is now only 10 % longer than its original length)?
The value of money is way too complicated to be usefully applied as a physics analogy.Is it like that ...
I give 2 dollars to a man that have a 100 dollars in his pocket and
I give also a 2 dollars to another man that have 200 dollars in his pocket ,
they both benefit the same amount from me ?
They don't benefit the same amount. One guy makes 2% on his money and the other guy makes only 1% on his money.Is it like that ...
I give 2 dollars to a man that have a 100 dollars in his pocket and
I give also a 2 dollars to another man that have 200 dollars in his pocket ,
they both benefit the same amount from me ?
I agree compared to their sum in their pocket but as for me that the 2 dollars have the role of the strain remain the same value .I think ..They don't benefit the same amount. One guy makes 2% on his money and the other guy makes only 1% on his money.
2 dollars has units of dollars. It'll buy a couple hash browns at McDonalds. Strain is unitless. Like simple interest.I agree compared to their sum in their pocket but as for me that the 2 dollars have the role of the strain remain the same value .I think ..
The value of money is way too complicated to be usefully applied as a physics analogy.
I particularly like the value of a bag of grain as discussed here.
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2 dollars has units of dollars. It'll buy a couple hash browns at McDonalds. Strain is unitless. Like simple interest.
Well it’s not the same. The percentage changes are the same as strain.I agree compared to their sum in their pocket but as for me that the 2 dollars have the role of the strain remain the same value .I think ..