Strain Gauge Bonding: Permanent & Chemical Options

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the bonding methods for strain gauges intended for use on the suspension of a race bike. Participants explore various adhesive and chemical options, focusing on permanent solutions versus non-permanent methods, and the implications of these choices on installation and performance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding permanent adhesive options for strain gauges and questions the necessity of reinstalling non-permanent solutions frequently.
  • Another participant suggests "J-B Weld" as a strong epoxy that could be suitable for bonding strain gauges, sharing personal experiences with its use in other applications.
  • A different participant confirms the use of "J-B Weld" on their race bike but questions its suitability for strain gauges due to its thickness compared to typical adhesives.
  • One participant humorously suggests encasing the strain gauges in "J-B Weld" while expressing concern that it might alter the physical properties of the material, potentially affecting gauge accuracy.
  • Another participant notes that superglue might be a common choice based on preliminary research and provides links for further reading on strain gauge installation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best adhesive method for strain gauges, with multiple competing views on the suitability of different adhesives and the implications of their use.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the physical properties of adhesives and their potential impact on strain gauge performance. The discussion includes various assumptions about the characteristics of the strain gauges and the environments in which they will be used.

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I have a few strain gauges that are going onto the suspension of a race bike. I've never installed these things before. While I have found a lot of information on installing them, I am having a hard time finding many adhesive and chemical options. It seems a lot of them are non-permanent, or require a complex curing procedure. I would like a permenant method so I don't have to reinstall them a few times. One set of gauges will be close to an exhaust system as well. Anyone have any use personally with some of the available options?

FYI, I am a poor engineering student, so I tend to do things the hard way if it saves me a few bucks. Maybe the non-perms are better and I just reinstall them often?
 
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Welcome to PF Strgt. (From the Stargate movie/series?)
I don't know where you are, so this might not be of help. In North America we have a product called "J-B Weld". It's a binary epoxy similar to auto body filler, but is so strong that it actually works more like welding. (I know of one guy who mended a broken trailer hitch with it, and one of their ads showed it repairing the ram of a 12-ton bottle jack.) You can get it in hardware or auto parts stores.

edit: I've used it to fabricate machine parts rather than carve or mould metal.
 
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Half my race bike is made out of jbweld :) Didn't know that was a suitable epoxy for strain gauges as its a bit thicker than the superglue-like stuff used in most of the applications guides.
 
strgt said:
Half my race bike is made out of jbweld :)
:smile:

That and duct tape will carry you through life, my son. :biggrin:

Perhaps I should have asked for a description of the strain gauges in case I have the wrong idea about them. I'm thinking "little flat things" (pardon the technical jargon) about the size of a postage stamp. Anyhow, my idea was to encase them, rather than just glue them on. I think that the easiest explanation is if I tell you to think of a barnacle. The J-B forms an enclosure, and the gauge is the animal inside. That might be inappropriate for your purposes, though.

I also like "contact cement", but again it might not be suitable. I don't know how it stands up to stress.

edit: Upon further reflection, I think that J-B might be a bad idea. It would alter the physical properties of the material that it's attached to, and thus compromise the accuracy of the gauges. :frown:
 
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strgt said:
I have a few strain gauges that are going onto the suspension of a race bike. I've never installed these things before. While I have found a lot of information on installing them, I am having a hard time finding many adhesive and chemical options.
From a quick google search, I conclude that you are not Robinson Crusoe! It seems the process can be as painstaking as ones patience will endure. :cool:

From brief reading, it seems you´ll probably end up using superglue, but here are some links to read through first.

http://www.electro-tech-online.com/...at/97218-strain-gauge-adhesive-subsitute.html

⊳ http://fetweb.ju.edu.jo/staff/Mechatronics/LShareef/Trans_files/5%20Stress%20and%20Strain/Lab%203%20-%20Strain%20Gauge%20Installation.pdf

⊳ http://www.disensors.com/downloads/products/Practical%20Hints%20For%20Strain%20Gauging_784.pdf

Good luck! :smile:
 
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