Can You Solve This Strange Indefinite Integral?

In summary, the conversation is about a person struggling to solve a difficult integral and asking for help. Another person quickly provides the answer using Maple, while another suggests using integration by parts. Eventually, someone else solves it using the suggested method.
  • #1
GodsmacK
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Hello, everyone

I've trying to solve this integral but it seems like the methods I know are not enogh to solve it. So I'd be glad if you could give me some trick to get into the answer.
Here it is:

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Thanks in advance!
 
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  • #2
Maple knocked it out right away (I have no idea what the details are):

Integral = num/den
where
num =(x*e^x*(tan((1/2)*e^x))^2-x*e^x+2*tan((1/2)*e^x))
den=(1+tan((1/2)*e^x))*e^x

Perhaps having the result in hand will enable you to go back and fill in the gaps.
 
  • #3
I found it to be e-xsin(ex) - xcos(ex) + c
This was through Wolfram and I would guess integration by parts somehow
 
  • #4
Hey guys!

I've just solved this thing. In fact, like Charles wrote, it is integration by parts. First you distribute the [itex]\sin(e^x)[/itex] into the parenthesis, then you do the substitution [itex]u=e^x[/itex]. After some steps you shall get something like this:

[itex]I=\int \ln(u) \sin(u)du-\int \frac{\sin(u)}{u^2}du[/itex]

Applying integration by parts:

[itex]I=-\cos(u) ln(u)+\int \frac{\cos(u)}{u}du+\frac{\sin(u)}{u}-\int \frac{\cos(u)}{u}du[/itex]

And there you are... As you see the non-primitive function integral gets cancelled.
 
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  • #5
Eureka! And substituting back reduces it down. Aren't integrals just a blast?
 

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