String mass - what do we know?

In summary, according to the equations Hatfield references, it is possible to calculate the mass of particles, based on the number operator. However, these equations assume that the particles get mass from some broken symmetry, like the Higgs mechanism. So, while the equations provide a way to calculate the mass of particles, they do not provide evidence that string theory is accurate or incorrect.
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As I understand the situation, string theory really has made no connection to reality yet. We don't seem to be able to calculate anything from string theory and confirm those calculations with observation. Or have I misunderstood? For example, we cannot even calculate the mass of a particle yet. Hatfield's book, QFT for points particles and strings, page 485, writes, "We know that all observable particles are not massless, and that the world at ordinary energies is not supersymmetric. Therefore, it is impossible to do true phenomenology from perturbation theory alone. (When we mentioned that some candidate vacuum states gave reasonable phenomenology, the supersymmetry breaking effects had to be added by hand.)"

However, we find equations for the mass squared operator on page 513 of Hatfield eq 20.52 and also in Zwiebach's, First Course in String Theory, page 163 eq 9.82 for classical relativistic strings, page 232 eq 12.173 for quantum relativistic open strings, page 255 eq 13.48 for quantum relativistic closed strings, and page 265 eq 13.99 for supersymmetric strings. These are put in terms of the number operator defined in Zwiebach, page 233 eq 12.174.

Are these in the general, non-perturbative form that Hatfield speaks of? Is there anything we can learn about the dependence of the mass on, say, frequency and mode number from these equations?
 
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The massive particles determined by the expressions you quote are TOO massive to be observed in our low energy world; their energy equivalent is orders of magnitude above any energy we could hope to create. So the phenomenology, like Zweibach's chapter 15, works with massless particles, and assumes they get mass form some broken symmetry, like the Higgs mechanism.
 
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The massive particles determined by the expressions you quote are TOO massive to be observed in our low energy world; their energy equivalent is orders of magnitude above any energy we could hope to create. So the phenomenology, like Zweibach's chapter 15, works with massless particles, and assumes they get mass form some broken symmetry, like the Higgs mechanism.
So is anything salvagable from the formulas I reference? Or do we simply not know at this point anything about the behavior of the final formula for the mass of massive strings?

For example, wouldn't it be true that the apparent mass of a fast approaching string would not depend on the angle at which it approaches? Must it also not depend on the frequency of vibration so that time dilation does not reduce it to zero at "c"? Even if the mass were to depend only on the number of nodes, the mode number, which happens to be Lorentz invariant, even then, is it possible that time dilations slow the frequency so much that it becomes impossible to distinguish the number of nodes? Questions, questions... Are there any answers? Thanks.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
The massive particles determined by the expressions you quote are TOO massive to be observed in our low energy world; their energy equivalent is orders of magnitude above any energy we could hope to create. So the phenomenology, like Zweibach's chapter 15, works with massless particles, and assumes they get mass form some broken symmetry, like the Higgs mechanism.
I thought that finding the mass spectrum of particles was the whole inspiration that started string theory. Could it be that one of our starting assumptions about how strings operate is in error? If not, then why does this incongruence not prove string theory wrong?
 

1. What is string mass and why is it important in science?

String mass refers to the mass of an object or material that is made up of tiny string-like structures. It is important in science because it can affect the physical properties and behavior of the material, such as its strength and flexibility.

2. How can string mass be measured in a scientific experiment?

String mass can be measured using various techniques, such as weighing the string on a scale, measuring its diameter and length and using a formula to calculate its mass, or using advanced techniques like mass spectrometry.

3. What are some real-world applications of understanding string mass?

Understanding string mass is important in various fields, such as engineering, materials science, and biology. It can help in designing and building structures that require strong and lightweight materials, as well as studying the properties of biological materials like DNA and proteins.

4. Can changing the string mass affect other properties of a material?

Yes, changing the string mass can affect other properties of a material. For example, increasing the string mass can make a material stronger, but it can also make it less flexible. This is because the mass of the strings affects the overall density and structure of the material.

5. Are there any limitations to our current understanding of string mass?

Yes, there are limitations to our current understanding of string mass. While we have a good understanding of how string mass affects the physical properties of materials, there is still much to be learned about its role in biological systems and how it can be manipulated for practical applications.

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