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  1. Mar 27, 2006 #1

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    Here's something to keep HRW up late, and it's a spin off on Curious3141's ideas about "Russian Doll Words"(which was very cool), but not quite exactly the same idea. I am pretty sure I have seen these in word puzzles before, but I started messing with them again recently subconsciously.

    What I am after are words that can be "peeled" to make new words.

    Strip off the first and last letter and get a new word, and then repeat until you get down to a 2 or 3 letter word root. (Possibly down to a one letter word, like A or I.) 2 letter roots are for words with an even number of letters and 3 or 1 letter roots are for words with an odd number of letters.

    For instance ASHAMED counts for ASHAMED and SHAME and HAM. (and then A is a word, so bonus for that!) 4 words total.

    MUSINGS counts for MUSINGS and USING and SIN (And I). 4 words total.

    These are the maximums I have found: 4 words made from one word 7 letters long.

    I wonder if it is possible to find words containing more words or letters than this?

    My other (not as good) finds are
    FLOWERS: 7 letters, 3 words, FLOWERS, LOWER, and OWE.
    PROBING: 7 letters, 3 words, PROBING, ROBIN, and OBI.
    MOMENT: 6 letters, 3 words, MOMENT, OMEN, and ME
    CANONS: 6 letters, 3 words, CANONS, ANON, and NO
     
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  3. Mar 28, 2006 #2

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    I'm really bad at these...the best I could come up with was:
    BOWL: 4 letters, 2 words, BOWL, OW! :biggrin: :tongue2:
     
  4. Mar 28, 2006 #3

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    That's a good start, Moonbie! I think the trick is to find a good middle word to build on. Ones that lend themselves to "s", "e" or "ed" endings work well. And words that contain multiple consonants in the beginning are good.
    Try some using the middle word ID or OR.
     
  5. Mar 28, 2006 #4

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    Can I cheat and just find any words? :redface:
     
  6. Mar 28, 2006 #5

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    p.s I was trying to find something biology-related for you, MB, but the best I could do was TOM -> STOMA. :)
     
  7. Mar 28, 2006 #6

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    Aww...thanks. I think you get a bonus point for using a word that also has a scientific anagram: Atoms. :biggrin:
     
  8. Mar 28, 2006 #7

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    Well, you could, but I think that might be a different game. :smile: I should relax the rules and allow proper nouns, though.
     
  9. Mar 28, 2006 #8

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    Neat-o! I never thought of that! :cool:
     
  10. Mar 28, 2006 #9

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    Towel -> Owe

    Dish -> Is

    heart -> ear -> A

    Okay, this is pathetic, I'm going back to picking on pengwuino. :biggrin:
     
  11. Mar 28, 2006 #10

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    I can think of about a thousand that form three words:

    SHINTO - HINT - IN
    FLAGS - LAG - A
    SHADE - HAD - A
    TWINS - WIN - I
    FLAWS - LAW - A
    SAILS - AIL - I
    HAIRY - AIR - I
    NEATO - EAT - A
    HOARY - OAR - A

    Tough to find ones that'll form four words, though. If you could take off two letters from the end and beginning, you could make ASHAMED into UNASHAMEDLY and have one that makes five, but I guess that's outside of the rules.
     
  12. Mar 28, 2006 #11

    Tom Mattson

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    APATHY-PATH-AT
    SPARE-PAR-A
    SLIDE-LID-I
    SPORES-PORE-OR

    Well in that case...

    ATHENS (or ATHENA)-THEN-HE
     
  13. Mar 28, 2006 #12

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    UBIQUITOUS-QUIT-UI

    (Ui is a last name :biggrin:)
     
  14. Mar 28, 2006 #13

    Tom Mattson

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    How about BIQUITOU and IQUITO, are they last names too? :rolleyes:

    You're supposed to be peeling off one pair of letters at a time.
     
  15. Mar 28, 2006 #14

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    Salient > Alien > Lie > I
    Stripes > Tripe > Rip > I
    Piraters > Irater > Rate > At

    I can't find "Irater" in the dictionary, but I can't find "Angrier" in there either, so "Irater" should be a word.
     
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  16. Mar 29, 2006 #15

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    I'll be back later (I'm actually turning a pattern (the deletion of compound constituents) that fell out of the trinonym thread into a little miniresearch project thing and am busy (snoozing) collecting data for it), but I just have to say that this is a perfect example of why I love you, MIH. If I was a teacher, I'd want you as a student, and if I was a student, I'd want you as a teacher, and if I was just about anything else, I'd want you around. You rock SO hard! :biggrin:

    P.S. Okay, one first idea: match up pairs of prefixes and suffixes with the same number of letters (e.g., (un-, -ed) (surround a verb stem), (dis-, -ize), (dis-, -ed-s), etc.). This guarantees you at least one peeling, but then you can also look specifically for stems that would form more, e.g., dis-[]-ing, is-[]-in, s-[]-i. Actually, building up from stems does look more promising -- just matching prefixes for suffixes. Say, pick a word: heart. dis-heart-en-s. dis-he(art)-en-ing... Ack, devil woman, you will be the death of me! :approve: (I wonder where that saying comes from.)

    P.P.S. Is undishearteningly a word? :buggrin:

    Oh, EACH peeling needs to produce a word. Oops, autopilot. Okay, Roger. Or do you prefer stripping? :tongue2:

    Still, varying the length of each peel (1 letter, 2 letters, etc.) could be interesting too, I think.

    Oh, and loseyourname already said what I said. I guess I should read the thread before posting P.S.s. :redface:
     
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  17. Mar 29, 2006 #16
    Something's terribly wrong here: you and I are somehow in total agreement about something.
     
  18. Mar 29, 2006 #17

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    :cool: It's not so terrible, is it?

    Um, I hope this isn't cheating: You can do wildcard searches on OneLook (I adore this site). A * is replaced with a string of any length, and a ? is replaced with a single letter. For instance, I wanted to find some words to fill in

    un-[]-ed

    So one option is a word that begins with n, ends with e, and what's in between them is a verb

    n-[VERB]-e

    One search is n???e, which turned up, e.g., naile, giving

    unailed -- naile -- ail -- i

    Jimmy was sick last week, but now he is unailed. Kosher?

    Other example searches: n*e, n?i?e, n??a??e, n*at*e, ?to?, ?atop?...

    And actually, you wouldn't need to even think in terms of categories of words; it's just automatic for me, I guess. :rolleyes:
     
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  19. Mar 29, 2006 #18

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    e-shearers -- shearer -- heare -- ear -- a

    Surely you wouldn't reject this already rejected name for the first electronic razor? I don't know how much the poor word can take. Not to mention their dejected inventor, Mr. E. Shearer. I, for one, think that E. Shearer's e-shearers deserve another chance. But I am just a simple country witch doctor.
     
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  20. Mar 29, 2006 #19
    Not at all. It's nice to find we're in enthusiastic agreement about something, just temporarily disorienting, is all.
     
  21. Mar 29, 2006 #20

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    I can think of about a thousand, this is easy:
    Hinder > Hind > Hi > I
    Blenders > Blender > Blend > Lend > End > En (the average with of a typeset charachter)
    Magistrate > Magi > Ma > A
    Ashamed > Ashame > A sham? > Sham > Ham > Am > A
    Speakerbox > Speaker > Peaker > Peak > Pea > A
    Gulgamesh > Amesh :tongue2: > Mesh
    Arrowhead > Arrow > Row > Ow > O
    Ledges > Edges > Led > Ed!
    Apartheid > Apart > Part > Par > Pa > A
    Discussions > Discussion> Discuss > Cuss > Us
    Applications > Application > Cations > Ions > Ion > Io > I
    Jackass > Ass > As > A
    Jackrabbit > Rabbit > Rabbi > Ra > A
    Reference > Refer > Ref
    Peppermints > Peppermint > Pepper > Pep
    Peppermints > Mints > Mint > Min (a dialect of Chinese) > Mi (the third note of a major scale: do re mi...) > I
    Waterloo > Water > Ate > At > A
    Conditioner > Condition > Ion > Io > I
    Conditioner > Condition > Con > On > O
    Flippantly > Pant > Ant > An > A
    Clocktowers > Clocktower > Tower > Tow > To > O
    Clocktower > Clocktower > Clock > Lock > Lo > O
    Oxford > Ox > O
    Oxford > Ford > For > Fo
    Publications > Publication > Public > Pub > P.U. You stink
    Publications > Publication > Cations > Cation > Ion > Io > I
    Conservationists > Conservationist > Conservation > Cons > Con > On > O

    Anybody want to try these?
    Advantageousness
    Antineodisestablishmenttarianism
    Angelicans
    Replications
    Breadsitcks
    Globalization
    Magnetohydrodynamics

    This is like a cross between Scrabble and factor treeing
     
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