Prove Z(G) Intersect H is Contained in Z(H) & Subgroup of H

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In summary, the conversation discusses proving that Z(G) intersect H is contained in Z(H) and is a normal subgroup of H. An example is given where Z(G) intersect H is a proper subgroup of Z(H). The proof and example are both correct, using necessary definitions and theorems.
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Homework Statement


Let H be a subgroup of G.
Prove Z(G) intersect H is contained in Z(H),
use this result to verify that Z(G) intersect H is a normal subgroup of H.
Given an example where Z(G) intersect H is a proper subgroup of Z(H).


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Z(G)= the center of G (x is an element of G |xa=ax for all a that is an element of G)

The Attempt at a Solution


a. wts Z(G) intersect H is contained in Z(H)
So Z(G)=a is an element of G|ax=xa for all x that is an element of G. So Z(G) intersect H = a is an element of H|ax=xa for all x that is an element of G. Since an element a of Z(G) intersect H is in H and commutes with all of G, then it obviously commutes with all of H since H is a subgroup of G. Thus Z(G) intersect H is contained in H.

b. LTS that Z(G) intersect H is a subgroup of H.
Obviously Z(G) intersect H is contained within H as shown above.
Since the identity e is always in Z(G) and in H (since H is a subgroup of G), then Z(G) intersect H is nonempty. Let a,b be elements of Z(G) intersect H. Then ab=ba by defintion of Z(G) intersect H. Let a(b^-1) be an element of Z(G) intersect H.
Then a(b^-1)x=(b^-1)ax (since ab=ba implies (b^-1) = (a^-1)(b^-1)a.
Thus, by the 1-step subgroup test, Z(G) intersect H is a subgroup of H.
Since Z(G) intersect H = a is an element of H|ax=xa for all x that is an element of G,
then Z(G) intersect H, then the element a obviously commutes with everything in H if it commutes with everything in G. Thus Z(G) intersect H is an abelain subgroup of H and is normal.
3. My example is to consider D4 with H being <R90>. Then Z(G) intersect H= {R0, R180} which is a proper subgroup of Z(H) (Z(H)=<R90> which is of order 4).

Is what I did proving all of this check or not. I am unsure about proving containments and subgroup tests. Thanks for any help
 
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Your proof and example are both correct! You did a good job explaining the concepts and using the necessary definitions and theorems to support your argument. Keep up the good work!
 

1. What does the notation Z(G) represent in this context?

The notation Z(G) represents the center of a group G, which is the set of elements that commute with all other elements in the group.

2. What is the significance of proving that Z(G) intersect H is contained in Z(H)?

This proof shows that the center of a subgroup H is a subset of the center of the larger group G, indicating a close relationship between the two groups.

3. How do you prove that Z(G) intersect H is contained in Z(H)?

A common approach is to show that any element in the intersection is also in the center of H, meaning it commutes with all elements of H. This can be done by applying the definition of the center and properties of group elements.

4. Is Z(G) intersect H always a subgroup of H?

Yes, by definition, the intersection of two subgroups is always a subgroup. This is because it inherits all the properties of a subgroup from both H and Z(G), such as closure and associativity.

5. Can this proof be applied to non-Abelian groups?

Yes, this proof can be applied to both Abelian and non-Abelian groups. The only difference is that in non-Abelian groups, the center may not be the entire group, but it will still have the same properties and can be used in the same way in this proof.

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