Solving Submarine Problem - Alex

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In summary, the conversation is about solving a problem involving using sonar waves to identify a ship's location. The problem provides information about the depth of the submarine, the time it takes for the ping to return, and asks for the direct distance to the ship. The conversation also touches on the speed of sound in water and how temperature and pressure can affect it. Ultimately, the expert suggests looking up the speed of sound at a standard temperature rather than trying to factor in all the complexities of temperature and pressure.
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Hi,

I need to solve this problem but I have no idea where to start. I made a little drawing with all the informations I have but now I'm stuck. Here's the problem:

A submarine uses sonar waves, to identify other ships, by directing a highly directional acoustic pulse at a target, and computing the time duration between the transmission of the "ping", and the return of the echo. If a sub is a depth of 500m and receives a ping return in 5.6s, determine the direct distance to the ship.

I'm not looking for the answer, just a little hint of what to start with. Thanks a lot !

- alex.
 
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What's the speed of sound in water? How far must the sound have traveled in 5.6s? (Don't forget that the sound makes a round trip.)
 
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Great ! Thanks. One last question, does the temperature affects anything ? Thanks !
 
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Both pressure and temperature will affect the speed of sound. (But I'll bet you can ignore such complications.)
 
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The problem actually include the temperature, so I guess I need to include it in my formula. I google'd for it but could only find tables. If density of water is 1, what formula should I use ?

Thanks !
 
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Unless this problem is meant to exercise your detailed understanding of the speed of sound in a liquid (the speed depends on the bulk modulus and density, which in turn depend on pressure and temperature), I would just look up the speed of sound (in seawater... salinity counts!) at some standard temperature. That should be good enough.
 

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