Alright we've all heard your generic Suicide hotline annoying scripted crap. "We care, we want to listen to you." While this might work generally. I was just thinking. It certainly wouldnt for me. Though I will never ever be suicidal. So perhaps I could never really understand what exactly is going through a suicidal person's head. But I would say Revenge or other such things. are very strong. What im wondering. HAs anyone tried to pull a person away from suicide and place them in a less destructive way, such as Revenge. Take your common suicidal person. and they have a bad life. This bad life is full of people abusing in some form to these people. Like im first to admit it. I would be a terrible psychologist although people i know(some friends) think i should go into psychology with a minor of philosophy. But this is how i would try dealing with a suicidal person who was being abused in some way. I would get them off from killing themselves, and instead of killing themselves. Get revenge for the injustices that has been done to that person. Then once they are onto getting revenge. You can break them off revenge and make them more passive. If anyone has studied Jainism I find it a very good religion. Great alternative to any of your younger religions which are barbaric(abrahamic religions for example) while i dont practice Jainism. I dont exactly believe in the whole jiva, samsara, nor karma. anyhow im wondering if you think im off base or think that revenge simply isnt strong enough to beat suicide.