Electric Field Distribution of a Charged Disk: The Role of Symmetry

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the electric field lines and the symmetry of a charged object, specifically an infinitely wide and long disk with a thickness h and a constant charge density ρ0. It is determined that the electric field lines must be perpendicular to the disk in order to maintain rotational symmetry and avoid contradictions. The same reasoning applies to a large, flat surface with a thickness h and constant charge density. The conversation ends with a friendly farewell.
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Nikitin
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Hey. Let's say you have an infinitely wide and long disk with a thickness h. Inside the disk, there is a constant charge density ρ0.

Why would the electric field lines be perpendicular to the disk?

Can somebody explain how symmetry and such generally affect electric field distribution of a charged object?

thanks! :)
 
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Hi Nikitin. Assume that at some point on the disk, the electric field vector points at an angle away from the perpendicular. Note that the system (infinite disk) exhibits rotational symmetry about this point so if I rotate by ##\pi## radians, the electric field must remain unchanged. However, this rotation will take the electric field vector and make it point in the opposite direction but the rotation must leave the electric field at this point unchanged so it must simultaneously point in the original direction as well, which is a contradiction. Thus, the electric field vector must point along the perpendicular in order to avoid this contradiction.
 
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hmm, that's a very smart trick! thanks allot!

But what if the object is not a disk, but a random, very large "flat" surface with a thickness h and constant charge density?

If the surface is large enough, shouldn't the field at its centre be approximately constant? Why?
 
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Do you mean like an infinite sheet? An infinite sheet has no absolute center i.e. if you pick any point on the sheet, the sheet will look rotationally symmetric about that point. Consequently, the same argument from before applies.
 
  • #5
Okay, thanks!
 
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Good luck in your studies friend!
 

1. What is symmetry in relation to electric fields?

Symmetry refers to the balance or regularity of an object or system. In the context of electric fields, symmetry refers to the uniformity or consistency of the field's direction and strength throughout a given region.

2. How does symmetry affect electric fields?

Symmetry plays a crucial role in determining the behavior of electric fields. If the electric field has a high degree of symmetry, the field lines will be evenly distributed and the electric potential will be constant throughout. This can make it easier to calculate the field strength and predict the movement of charged particles within the field.

3. Can symmetry exist in both electric and magnetic fields?

Yes, symmetry can exist in both electric and magnetic fields. In fact, the symmetry of electric and magnetic fields are often closely related and can impact each other's behavior. For example, a changing magnetic field can induce an electric field with a corresponding symmetry.

4. How can symmetry be used to solve problems involving electric fields?

Symmetry can be used as a tool to simplify calculations and solve problems involving electric fields. By identifying and utilizing symmetries, such as cylindrical or spherical symmetry, one can take advantage of the uniformity and predictability of the field to make calculations more manageable.

5. What are some common examples of symmetry in electric fields?

Some common examples of symmetry in electric fields include: a point charge creating a radial electric field, parallel plates creating a uniform electric field between them, and a charged sphere creating a symmetrical electric field around it. Additionally, many real-world systems, such as electronic circuits, exhibit symmetrical behavior due to the principles of symmetry in electric fields.

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