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System of equations: help needed

  1. Jan 7, 2007 #1
    can anyone tell me how to solve the system of equations:

    [tex](x-1)(y^2+6) = y(x^2+1)[/tex]

    [tex](y-1)(x^2+6) = x(y^2+1)[/tex]

    note: this is not a homework problem. as far as i know, this is a problem from australia's national math olympiad.
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  3. Jan 8, 2007 #2


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    I used the http://www.hostsrv.com/webmab/app1/MSP/quickmath/02/pageGenerate?site=quickmath&s1=equations&s2=solve&s3=advanced [Broken] and put

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    into the field marked "EQUATION(S)" to get the solutions

    [tex](x,y)=(2,2),\, (2,3),\, (3,2),\, (3,3),\, \left( \frac{1}{2}\left(1\pm i\sqrt{15}\right) , \frac{1}{2}\left(1\mp i\sqrt{15}\right)\right)[/tex].
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  4. Jan 8, 2007 #3


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    I do not think that resorting to a software solution would be acceptable on a test.

    Expand both equations, then add them together. You will now have quadratic equations in x any y. Complete the squares and you will easily get the real solutions.
  5. Jan 8, 2007 #4
    benorin, i also got those solutions using Maple. but what i want to know is how to solve them without using softwares.

    Integral, i tried doing what you suggested. i expanded and subtracted one from the other and got an equation of a circle. but i don't know what to do next. can you give some more hints?
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    Try completing the square
  7. Jan 8, 2007 #6
    by adding the 2 equations i got, [tex](x-y)(x+y+2xy+7) = 0[/tex]

    by subtracting one from the other i got, [tex]\left(x-\frac{5}{2}\right)^2 + \left(y-\frac{5}{2}\right)^2 = \frac{1}{2}[/tex]

    but i can't figure out what to do next.
  8. Jan 8, 2007 #7


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    That's the eqn of a circle in the Oxy plane with radius 1/2 and located with the center at (5/2,5/2). You'll have to intersect this circle with the 2 line y=x and with the curve x+y+2xy+7=0 to get the possible solutions.

  9. Jan 8, 2007 #8
    the radius is actually [tex]\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

    but how do i do that? if i take the intersection between the circle and the line y = x, i get the solutions (3,3) and (2,2). but how do i get the intersection of the circle and the curve x+y+2xy+7=0?
  10. Jan 8, 2007 #9
    well, i tried the following:
    from x+y+2xy+7=0, we get [tex]y = \frac{-7-x}{1+2x}[/tex]

    substituting this into the equation of the circle and simplifying, i got the quartic equation:

    [tex]x^4 - 4x^3 + 10x^2 + 33x + 24 = 0[/tex]

    now how do i solve this?
  11. Jan 8, 2007 #10


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    First of all, you got the first equation wrong, it should read:

    Secondly, eliminating the (x-y) factor, ADD the two equations you now have, yielding:
    that is:

    Similarly, subtract the first one from your second one to get:

    Now, introduce the new variables u=x+y, v=x-y to rewrite your system of equations as:
    This system is readily solvable. :smile:
  12. Jan 8, 2007 #11

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    Is it helpful to notice here that these equations are inverses of each other? Then would mean that the intersect on the like y=x correct? And a few other places of course...but thought it might help since if you have one solution, you immediately have another :)
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