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Taslima Nasreen attacked

  1. Aug 12, 2007 #1

    siddharth

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    This is bloody outrageous :mad:

    (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6938887.stm)

    You can see the barbaric attacks on youtube.




    The leaders of the political party which lead the attack made statements like

    (source: http://www.theamericanmuslim.org/ta...from_mim_for_attack_on_taslima_nasrin/0014396)

    Then, shockingly, instead of arresting and jailing the sadistic moron for a death theat, this happened.

    (http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200708111758.htm)

    Which begs the question, what the ****???
     
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  3. Aug 12, 2007 #2

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    It's really sad, but religion and racism are very ingrained in some societies and the religious zealots are very afraid of anyone they see as a threat to their beliefs, which could ultimately result in an end to their control of the populace.
     
  4. Aug 12, 2007 #3

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    Islamic societies have proven themselves incapable of stemming the growth of radical Islam. De-radicalization can only happen through external pressure, there is not sufficient strength within these country to stop the movement.
     
  5. Aug 12, 2007 #4

    siddharth

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    That's very true.
    But the thing is, India is supposed to be a secular democracy :cry:

    I'm appalled that the police have booked a case against Taslima. If "protecting religious sentiments" is being used to somehow justify this incident, let the attackers go free, and arresting Taslima, then there's something really really wrong which needs to be fixed.
     
  6. Aug 12, 2007 #5

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    Radical Islam is spreading like wildfire throughout Muslim subcommunities all over the world, with the agenda of all-out genocide on non-believers.

    This is not something from your average fantasy novel, but the stark, grim reality we are facing today.
     
  7. Aug 12, 2007 #6

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    http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070022371&ch=8/12/2007 2:53:00 PM

    I didn't know that Taslima Nasreen was also charged - I thought the police merely registered a complaint against her, filed by the MIM legislator. I think that case will be thrown out. I know that many of the violent protesters were arrested and the MLA that made the death threat was booked by the local police and is "under investigation". I don't expect an arrest to result from this though.
     
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  8. Aug 12, 2007 #7

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    Unfortunately once people believe their view is the objective view of the world and they can't accept that for the most part these things are subjective, then that breeds hatred and intolerance. There is a serious lack of critical thinking about ideas in the general populace of the world which needs to be addressed.
     
  9. Aug 12, 2007 #8

    arildno

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    Indeed.
    There is a pathological lack of self-criticism within the Muslim world.
    Too many prefer to go into hot-headed denial and blame-shifting, conjuring up insane conspiracy theories on the spot just to make themselves feel better (like the very prevalent view that it was the Zionists who were responsible for 9/11, not muslims).

    Those within the Muslim world who ARE troubled by the countless acts of terrorism done in the name of their God know perfectly well there will be at least a dozen hotheads in his immediate vicinity, like family members, friends or neighbours who will not hesitate killing them if speaking out in public.

    So they keep silent.
    The Muslim world is self-policing, preventing any type of criticism to come to the surface and gain momentum, due to the high acceptance and prevalence of brute physical force to be used against any critic of Islam.

    They are trapped in a culture of violence and hatred they are unable to get rid of by themselves.

    They are their own jailers, torturers and killers, at every level of their society.
     
  10. Aug 12, 2007 #9
    I don't think that Muslim bashing is going to help matters. Neither will external interference. It will further alienate moderate Muslims from the mainstream and give the radicals more scope for claiming that Muslims are victimized and looked down upon by people of other religions, which can be disastrous.
     
  11. Aug 12, 2007 #10

    arildno

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    What Muslim bashing?

    To tell facts is not bashing, however uncomfortable that this is to someone.

    What was not factual in what I wrote?
     
  12. Aug 12, 2007 #11
    All this is very harsh. And how do you call this factual?
    I agree that radical Islam has become a huge problem, but claiming that their entire culture is one of violence and hatred is not acceptable. You forget that Taslima Narseen is also a Muslim and she isn't keeping quiet.
     
  13. Aug 12, 2007 #12

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    Taslima Nasrin is an ex-Muslim

    So is Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

    So is Wafa Sultan.

    So is Nonie Darwish.

    So is Walid Shoebat.

    Listen to THEIR stories and others like them.


    Violence done upon Muslim women is rampant throughout the entire world.
    Learn from that before you start whining about "harshness" of criticism.
     
  14. Aug 12, 2007 #13
    Islamophobia is a myth. The Muslim world has had a 1000 years to clean up their act by themselves. It hasn't worked so far. Moderate Muslims are part of the problem, as they themselves shelter and foster Islamic fundamentalism.

    Religious and cultural Islam is very destructive. The parts that are not have not been created from within, but from without.

    If you think Islam is just about peace, pick up a copy of the Qur'an or any news paper and read.
     
  15. Aug 12, 2007 #14
    Talking of violence against women, it's not restricted to Islamic society, it's very prevalent among Hindus as well. It is a scocial problem not a religious one.
     
  16. Aug 12, 2007 #15

    arildno

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    Consider the difference in evolution of India and Pakistan.
    Pakistan has driven itself into economical bankruptcy since the independence, whereas the Hindus in India has greatly increased the standards of living.

    Whereas in Pakistan, the civil rights given by the British law code have been systematically undermined, particularly under Zia-ul-Haq, reverting to a sharia-like state, India has expanded these civil rights having gradually dismantled the evils of the caste system, for example.

    There are no excuses for the Islamic countries, they are driving themselves into hell-holes of their own construction.
     
  17. Aug 12, 2007 #16

    arildno

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    No, it is straight out of the Quran.

    Whereas woman rights movements are flourishing in India working towards amelioration, this is not the case within Islamic countries.

    Please do not distort the truth as you have been systematically doing up to now.
    Do not make up more excuses for Islam.
     
  18. Aug 12, 2007 #17
    Maybe what you are saying is correct. What I said is probably very narrow-minded. I have never come into contact with any religious zealots.
    I simply don't like dragging religion into every issue.
     
  19. Aug 12, 2007 #18

    arildno

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    Since what this thread was actually about Islamic hot-heads trying to MURDER an author critical of Islam, you had no business trying to defend the religion that are breeding this type of individuals in a manner totally unlike any other religion.

    You ought to be ashamed of yourself trying to exonerate Islam from its complicity in this.
     
  20. Aug 12, 2007 #19

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    In this instance, the reason behind the attack is clearly because of a religious ideology.

    However, I don't think it's appropriate to discuss the hypothesis of an inherent relation between Islam and violence in this thread, because such a discussion would seem to violate the guidelines, irrespective of whether the claim is true or not.
     
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  21. Aug 12, 2007 #20

    arildno

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    Okay.
    Let's just drop it, then.
     
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