What Determines the Shift from Compression to Tension in a Swinging Rod System?

In summary, the problem discussed is about finding the critical angle at which a mass attached to a massless rod changes from experiencing compression to tension force. Using Newtonian physics and the conservation of energy, the critical angle is found to be equal to the arccosine of twice the cosine of the initial angle divided by three. Despite confusion about the net force pointing outward when the mass passes the critical angle, the fact that one end of the rod is attached to a frictionless pivot means that the mass must continue to move in a circular motion.
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KFC
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I found a long-time ago problem in helping archive here

The problem is about attaching a mass m to a massless rod which released at initial angle [tex]\theta_0[/tex] (measured from vertically axis), try to find the critical angle where the compression force change to tension force. Using Newtonian physics, the radial direction

[tex]T-mg\cos\theta=-ml\frac{v^{2}}{l} [/tex]

where T is the compression/tension of the rod, v is the velocity along tangential direction. At critical angle, the compression/tension force become zero, so

[tex]mg\cos\theta=ml\frac{v^{2}}{l} [/tex]

Apply the conservation of energy, one can find the critical angle is

[tex]\theta_c = \cos^{-1}\left(\frac{2\cos\theta_0}{3}\right)[/tex]

which is same as the solution in the old post.

But my question is, when the mass keep falling and the angle is larger than the critical angle, will the net force pointing outward so the acceleration is not pointing toward the center? If so, the object will not do a circular motion when it pass the critical angle?
 
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Hi KFC! :smile:
KFC said:
But my question is, when the mass keep falling and the angle is larger than the critical angle, will the net force pointing outward so the acceleration is not pointing toward the center? If so, the object will not do a circular motion when it pass the critical angle?

:confused: But …
The other end of the rod is attached to a frictionless pivot.

… so one end is fixed, and so the mass has to move in a circle, doesn't it?
 
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KFC said:
But my question is, when the mass keep falling and the angle is larger than the critical angle, will the net force pointing outward so the acceleration is not pointing toward the center? If so, the object will not do a circular motion when it pass the critical angle?
Since, as tiny-tim points out, the mass is constrained to move in a circle, at all times the net force will point toward the center.

Passing the "critical point" just changes the rod's contribution to the net force from a push to a pull.
 

1. What is the difference between tension and compression force?

Tension force is a force that pulls or stretches an object, while compression force is a force that pushes or squeezes an object. Both forces act in opposite directions.

2. How do tension and compression forces affect structures?

Tension and compression forces are important factors in determining the stability and strength of a structure. Tension forces can cause objects to elongate, while compression forces can cause objects to shorten. Structures must be designed to withstand these forces to prevent collapse.

3. What are some real-life examples of tension and compression forces?

Some real-life examples of tension forces include a rope being pulled, a rubber band being stretched, or a person hanging from a bar. Examples of compression forces include pushing down on a spring, standing on a bridge, or stacking heavy books on top of each other.

4. How do we measure tension and compression forces?

Tension and compression forces can be measured using a force gauge or by calculating the force using Newton's Second Law, F=ma. The unit of measurement for force is Newtons (N).

5. Can objects experience both tension and compression forces at the same time?

Yes, objects can experience both tension and compression forces simultaneously. For example, a beam supporting a heavy load will experience compression forces on the top, and tension forces on the bottom.

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