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Terminator IV: draft problem solved

  1. Jan 24, 2005 #1
    "The US military is planning to deploy robots armed with machine-guns to wage war against insurgents in Iraq".
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  3. Jan 24, 2005 #2
    Although these are ethically questionable and downright scary, it is important to note that they are controlled in real-time by humans, like the flying predator drones.
  4. Jan 24, 2005 #3


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    Scary it is ...

    ... and they seem to be quite efficient in harvesting existing technology...
  5. Jan 24, 2005 #4
    The army of the future will consist of fat video game addicts, and military uniforms will consist of baggy gym pants and a poncho.
  6. Jan 25, 2005 #5
    Finally, the precision hand-eye coordination I learned from countless hours playing video games is coming full circle! And society said I was wasting my time! pshh

    Haha, General Issue equipment hopefully...
  7. Jan 25, 2005 #6


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    These (flying predator drones, ground robots) are very good for gathering information.

    The idea of allowing robots to fire weapons in urban environments is 'interesting'. I wonder how they provide a good situational awareness to the robot operator. Recreating all the senses humans rely on to make on the spot decisions seems pretty difficult. But, then, human decisions under the stress of battlefield conditions are hardly infallible, either (as we've seen through the magic of videos provided by embedded reporters). Decisions made while safely removed from the threat of death may be better even with less information than would be available live-on-the-spot.

    If the operator can reliably make life and death decisions from the information provided, this would be an improvement for all involved. Less risk for military personnel; more accurate targeting and less inadvertant killing of innocent civilians.
  8. Jan 25, 2005 #7
    What are we going to do in 50 to 100 years from now when all of these countries have robots? Are we going to have robot battles, or are we going to go back to fighting with humans, or something else... ?
  9. Jan 25, 2005 #8
    lol interesting question. i guess you have to think about what it means to win a war.
  10. Jan 25, 2005 #9
    in 50 to 100 years it will be a one world goverment with a one world army of robots of wich we will not be able to escape...
  11. Jan 26, 2005 #10


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    I'd like to see some of those "insurgent" barbaric schitbags try to behead one of these robots on video.
  12. Jan 26, 2005 #11
    It's nice to see the American's aren't getting overly emotional towards the people they're invading.
  13. Jan 26, 2005 #12
    It's called EMP. We'll all be running around with EMP lasers shooting at robots.

    Or Nano-Combat-Bots. THAT would be cool!
  14. Jan 26, 2005 #13

    we will use EMP grenades to wipe out the robots!
  15. Jan 26, 2005 #14


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    So basically we're going to have the Matrix. Robots, EMP, Neo, etc. etc. :rofl:
  16. Jan 26, 2005 #15
    “The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, when you go to church, when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.”

    “The Matrix is a system, Neo, and that system is our enemy. When you are inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters, the very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are part of that system and that makes them our enemies. You have to understand most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many are so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.”
  17. Jan 26, 2005 #16
    Hmm. I'm not sure it will work. Operating a robot from afar can make one very reckless instead of being a cautious soldier. Also, it is easier to inadvertently make a bad decision (clicking a mouse to fire instead of pulling a trigger). It might create an ethical dilemma, it wouldn't really feel like one has killed someone through the robot..
  18. Jan 26, 2005 #17
    Good point motai, I do hope these Operators are very highly trained and conditioned.
  19. Jan 26, 2005 #18
    A new potential for a flagrant display of social [class] division.
  20. Jan 26, 2005 #19
    I think they are on the whole a good idea. However it won't be too long before someone "hacks" one and turns it against its operators.
  21. Jan 26, 2005 #20


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    On the other hand, consider this :

    Intel says that a big insurgent group is holed out in XYZ building. As you approach the area (the rest of your team vectoring in radially from different points) an audible alarm is raised by some locals; the insurgents are alerted but in the area. You're in a strange, hostile area and you've lost the element of surprise. The enemy knows you're approaching, so one screw up will cost you your life. You pass and alley and immediately, in your peripheral vision your see movement. You swing your gun around and ....

    1) .....fire a burst in the direction of the movement.

    2) .....press the ZOOM button to identify the nature of the disturbance. From the safety of your perch - you know your life is not directly threatened - you can make a more informed determination of friend or foe.

    Sure there are drawbacks. But there are advantages.
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