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The Age of Light

  1. May 20, 2009 #1
    Hello. I was recently reading up on the furthest start found so far to have been dated to approximately 13.7 billion years ago if I remember correctly.
    I'm curious though, how is the "age" of this light approximated? Photons themselves are radiation right soo...? Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. May 20, 2009 #2
    This is how I [a regular Joe] understand it:

    There's objects in the universe that serve as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_candle" [Broken]. Two are the most common used to calibrate astronomical distances: Type IA Supernovae and Cepheid variables. If you know how bright something is, you can estimate it's distance using an inverse square law of light propagation. Then.. you have to calibrate your measurement using something called "redshift".

    Light propagates as a wave (as well as discrete packages of energy: photons). Being a wave, it has a measurable frequency and this frequency can vary for a variety of reasons. In this particular case, Astronomers measure what's called "redshift". Redshift is equivalent to a frequency elongation which can be estimated using the Doppler effect for light.

    Analogous to the Doppler effect for sound, light waves can elongate (redshift) or compress (blueshift). The elongation in light from deep deep outer space is caused by 2 things: the speed of source and the expansion of the universe itself.

    If you're not familiar with the Doppler effect, think of it as what you hear when you're standing still on the side of the highway and big loud truck passes by [the sound pitch will increase as the osingbject gets closer].

    EDIT: Added first paragraph. It didn't pass the first time I posted
     
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  4. May 20, 2009 #3

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    To sum it up simply: the age of the light is determined by finding the distance to the object emitting it. If an object is 10 billion light years away, we say the light it emitted is 10 billion years old by the time it gets to us. As JRPB explained, the distance can be determined using the brightness of standard candles, or by measuring redshift. (Hopefully the two measurements should roughly agree with each other)
     
  5. May 20, 2009 #4
    google "distance ladder" But be warned, you might regret learning just how tenuous are our ideas of the size of the universe :smile:
     
  6. May 20, 2009 #5

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  7. May 24, 2009 #6
    Diazona isn't that just begging the question?
    Seems a bit tough to chew but interesting nonetheless. Thanks for the responses.
     
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