Is the Universe Eternal? Exploring the Possibility of an Infinite Existence

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of an eternal universe and the implications of the lifespan of protons and electrons. The idea of proton decay is also brought up, but it is mentioned that it does not significantly change the overall understanding of the universe's future.
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mcronald
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With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration? Its no more difficult to consider an eternal universe as it is a finite one with nothing coming before as it seems that it will never end.
 
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mcronald said:
With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration? Its no more difficult to consider an eternal universe as it is a finite one with nothing coming before as it seems that it will never end.
I guess it depends on how infinite your infinity has to be.
The largest black holes will take 10 ^ 100 to evaporate.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe#Time_frame_for_heat_death
 
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mcronald said:
With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration?
I do not quite see how you make this inference. That the proton has a lifetime larger than ##10^{34}## years by no means implies that the universe must be eternal.

Edit: Nobody has observed a proton for ##10^{34}## years. The proton mean-life (or bounds on it) are inferred from observing a large number of protons. Particle decays work according to an exponential distribution and if the mean-life would be ##10^{x}## years and you observed ##10^{x}## particles for one year, you would expect one of those particles to decay.
 
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mcronald said:
With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration? Its no more difficult to consider an eternal universe as it is a finite one with nothing coming before as it seems that it will never end.
This is a good read on the subject:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_an_expanding_universe

The short version of the above, in relation to your question, is that proton decay doesn't change the overall picture: it's more a detail than a big change to the overall picture.
 

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The current estimate for the age of the Universe is 13.8 billion years. This is based on data from the cosmic microwave background radiation and the expansion rate of the Universe.

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5. Could the age of the Universe be different in other parts of the Universe?

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