# The age of the Universe

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## Main Question or Discussion Point

With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration? Its no more difficult to consider an eternal universe as it is a finite one with nothing coming before as it seems that it will never end.

.Scott
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With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration? Its no more difficult to consider an eternal universe as it is a finite one with nothing coming before as it seems that it will never end.
I guess it depends on how infinite your infinity has to be.
The largest black holes will take 10 ^ 100 to evaporate.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe#Time_frame_for_heat_death

Orodruin
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With the life of a proton exceeding 10 to the 34 years and the electron even greater why can't we assume the universe is eternal and the big bang a fluctuation in that duration?
I do not quite see how you make this inference. That the proton has a lifetime larger than $10^{34}$ years by no means implies that the universe must be eternal.

Edit: Nobody has observed a proton for $10^{34}$ years. The proton mean-life (or bounds on it) are inferred from observing a large number of protons. Particle decays work according to an exponential distribution and if the mean-life would be $10^{x}$ years and you observed $10^{x}$ particles for one year, you would expect one of those particles to decay.

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