The Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ

In summary: In this case, the critical digit was the third one, so we changed it to make sure we remain in the desired range. And if we keep doing this, we will eventually hit every real number in the interval ##[r_1,r_2]##.Of course, there are many ways to find (infinitely many) rational numbers in this interval. This is just the simplest way to find one.
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kris kaczmarczyk
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Real number are uncountable nonetheless they always have Rational neighbor
count(ℝ) > count(ℚ) ; count(ℚ) == count(ℕ)

But still in-between any members of ℝ, we are quarantine to find element of ℚ

Can someone help me understand: were are these members of ℝ we cannot account for?

For reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_number

"The rationals are a dense subset of the real numbers: every real number has rational numbers arbitrarily close to it. A related property is that rational numbers are the only numbers with finite expansions as regular continued fractions. "
 
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kris kaczmarczyk said:
Summary: Real number are uncountable nonetheless they always have Rational neighbor
No rational number has a "neighbor".
No real number has a "neighbor.
 
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kris kaczmarczyk said:
Summary: Real number are uncountable nonetheless they always have Rational neighbor
A better way to say this is that the rationals are dense in the real number line. That is, between any two real numbers, there is always some rational number.
kris kaczmarczyk said:
count(ℝ) > count(ℚ) ; count(ℚ) == count(ℕ)

But still in-between any members of ℝ, we are quarantine to find element of ℚ
See above. Also, the word you want is "guaranteed," which is quite different from "quarantined."
kris kaczmarczyk said:
Can someone help me understand: were are these members of ℝ we cannot account for?
What do you mean? No real numbers are missing. We can account for all of them.
kris kaczmarczyk said:
For reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_number

"The rationals are a dense subset of the real numbers: every real number has rational numbers arbitrarily close to it. A related property is that rational numbers are the only numbers with finite expansions as regular continued fractions. "
 
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If it helps, one (relatively) simple way to remember is it that given two real numbers ##r_1,r_2## (where ##r_1<r_2##) we can always systematically extract a rational number ##q## so that ##r_1<q<r_2##. I find this a helpful way to remember this result.

The precise description will probably get a bit complicated due to boundary cases, but here is the general idea via a specific example.
##r_1=0.23459678...##
##r_1=0.23459732...##
The dots indicate that either we don't know (or don't care) about the digits after that.

So to generate ##q## first we copy the initial part where the digits of ##r_1## and ##r_2## are equal. So the first five digits of ##q## (after the decimal point) will be the same as ##r_1## and ##r_2##.

Now if you notice the next two digits in ##r_1##, they are ##6## and ##7##, while in ##r_2## they are ##7## and ##3##.
So we could use any of the following as ##q##:
##q=0.2345968##
##q=0.2345969##
##q=0.2345970##
##q=0.2345971##
##q=0.2345972##
 

What is the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ?

The Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ is a mathematical theorem that states that between any two rational numbers, there exists an infinite number of rational numbers and an infinite number of irrational numbers. Similarly, between any two real numbers, there exists an infinite number of rational numbers and an infinite number of irrational numbers.

How is the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ used in mathematics?

The Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ is used in various branches of mathematics, including calculus, analysis, and number theory. It is often used to prove the existence of irrational numbers and to show that the real numbers are uncountably infinite.

What is the proof of the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ?

The proof of the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ is a fundamental result in mathematics and involves using the properties of rational and irrational numbers to show that there is no gap between them. It can be proved using the Archimedean property, which states that for any real number x, there exists a natural number n such that n > x.

Are there any practical applications of the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ?

While the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ may seem like an abstract mathematical concept, it has several practical applications. For example, it is used in computer science to generate random numbers, in physics to model continuous phenomena, and in engineering to design efficient algorithms.

Is the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ a generalization of other mathematical theorems?

Yes, the Density Theorem ℚ and ℝ is a generalization of the Density Theorem for integers, which states that between any two integers, there exists an infinite number of integers. It is also related to the Intermediate Value Theorem, which states that if a continuous function takes on two values at different points, then it must also take on all values in between.

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