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The economy and jobs

  1. Mar 4, 2009 #1
    I am physics major who has tried applying to all types of internships and jobs and have not had any luck? This trouble led me to apply to PhD programs were I have had greater success than finding a fulltime job I suspect this might be due to the economy but not sure. Are there any jobs other than with Northrop/Boeing/Ratheon that I should be applying to were I could get a fulltime position to gather money before graduate school/September?
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  3. Mar 4, 2009 #2
    I'm guessing you're primarily interested in the aerospace/defense industry? Don't forget Lockheed Martin. And the billion other smaller start-up companies like SpaceX or Odyssey Space Research.
  4. Mar 4, 2009 #3
    I tried Lockheed but had the least luck with them and Boeing because they are constantly canceling positions and never have had a response from them. I am abit more interested in aerospace but am not limited to aerospace and am open to any industry.
  5. Mar 5, 2009 #4

    Andy Resnick

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    Are you asking to find a position that will only last ~6 months? No company is going to hire you for that (retail excepted). It will cost them a huge amount of money, and they will get near zero productivity out of you.

    Unfortunately, it's a really bad time to be looking for work. Find someplace to weather the storm.
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    One option might be to contact the department you're planning to do graduate work at and see if anyone in the department has funding to hire a student for the summer. It's not unheard of for some graduate student to start lab work in the summer immediately following their undergraduate degree before officially beginning in the fall.

    Andy has a good point that if you're looking for something for only 6 months, it will be a tough slog. That's not even enough time to cover most maternity leaves.

    The other advice I have is to consider what skills you currently have. What part time jobs did you have while you went through undergrad? What organizations did you volunteer with? What kinds of hobbies do you have? Essentially, you need to determine what your most marketable traits are and then identify target industires that need those traits.
  7. Mar 5, 2009 #6

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    That's true even in the best of times.
  8. Mar 5, 2009 #7
    Im confused arent internships(contract jobs) especially summer < 6 Months that clearly is a contradiction with no
    one will hire you for 6 months or less. Sorry for being a little contrarian with that advice given but it is clearly not true and discouraging.
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  9. Mar 5, 2009 #8
    I cant start as a summer student because a big part of wanting a job was the experience in a non-research environment and to save money to move to a different state.

    I have experience with programming, analysis, and tutoring.
  10. Mar 5, 2009 #9

    Andy Resnick

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    I thought you were looking for a job, this is very different from a internship.
  11. Mar 5, 2009 #10
    jo, internship, paid position of any sort to save money.
  12. Mar 6, 2009 #11
    In four years you will see people with signs "will work for food." In situation like this, you will take on any job. I mean literally any job. You want some good piece of advise? Get an entry level job in your field today (without any degree) and go to college part time. Before you graduate, make sure your degree will give you a promotion and you will not over-qualify.
  13. Mar 6, 2009 #12
    I want to hear more comments on this...
  14. Mar 6, 2009 #13


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    It's ill-informed speculation. Things arent as bad as mass-media depicts. Chill.
  15. Mar 6, 2009 #14
    There's always a market for smart people. When all else fails, get smarter. Learn more physics and mathematics.
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    Thats pretty naive/simplistic advice like if all fails start a business and become a millionaire.
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  18. Mar 6, 2009 #17
    I call BS on a lot of that (your link has a lot of refutations as well). Maybe engineers like engineering??? It can be more fulfulling than having 'fun in college' (I had plenty) and making it to 'management'. Who else is going to design the future?

    You can be an engineer and an entrepreneur and you technically have no salary cap.

    I don't see what you're trying to do here. Stir up the pot? Get kids to pursue management jobs, MDs, law degrees???

    Bottom line is I feel like engineering is a fairly important field on the forefront of the major problems facing human kind. All your complaints are just noise.
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  20. Mar 7, 2009 #19
    Unbelievably silly, even.

    The few true things in that article seem like advantages to me! (I like the fact that so much work is concentrated in a few areas... it makes it easier to find a job nearby. I enjoy workplace diversity, being a card-carrying liberal with all that entails.)

    I'll also add, I'm in my 40's, and have never worried about keeping a job. I've never been personally interested in management, but most of the managers I've known have been engineers, including the CEOs of a majority of the companies that I've worked for.
  21. Mar 7, 2009 #20
    When school districts are laying off 40% of the certified teachers because their budgets are slashed, then things are as bad as the mass-media depicts.

    I'm a physics teacher and I'm losing my job along with a few dozen other teachers in my district. When I started three years ago, people commented that while the pay was (relatively) low, the job security was GREAT, and that if science teachers were getting laid off it would be because everything was going completely downhill. Three of the seven of us in my department are being let go under a Reduction In Force (RIF).
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