I watch and see this continual barage of foolish conversation upon fired sand structures, but no one knows the sand or addresses it. From the sand comes all things made. Like from the water or from the air. I challange any of you on this forum all of you inlcuding you outside this forum or to you who this particular subforum is made. I will place the reality of creation before a reputable source and only a reputable source. I do not know what is being said as known or unknown, but I do know what is. It does not bother me to not speak it, for it has been a realization to me since 1991. I am certainly not the first in history to understand it and will not be the last. What the worlds wants is accepted popular bandwagons and that is all. If you want confirmation of the real one and you have a decent reason reply else let this post hang in space.