Is the Hummer Being Sold to a Chinese Company? The Latest Move by GM

[Ivan Seeking]

Talk about a sign of the times!

DETROIT - General Motors Corp. took a key step toward its downsizing on Tuesday, striking a tentative deal to sell its Hummer brand to a Chinese manufacturer, while also revealing that it has potential buyers for its Saturn and Saab brands.

GM has an agreement to sell its Hummer brand to Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. of China, said a person briefed on the deal...

http://www.maximumedge.com/cgi/news/article.cgi/20090602/D98IMIQ00

 

[drankin]

Now Hummers will be made from old refrigerators, stoves, and smashed cars. Well, at least it's recycling!

 

[Jimmy Snyder]

Now Hummers will be made from old refrigerators, stoves, and smashed cars. Well, at least it's recycling!

Of course it recycling. Is there a downside to that?

 

[LowlyPion]

Talk about a sign of the times!

http://www.maximumedge.com/cgi/news/article.cgi/20090602/D98IMIQ00

Likely means that they will be making transports for the Chinese Army.
They probably don't need a market for it in the US to justify it at all.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Now Hummers will be made from old refrigerators, stoves, and smashed cars. Well, at least it's recycling!

The followup discussion was that they will likely continue to be produced in the US due to the strong national identity associated with the pig... I mean vehicle.

What do you think is the number one car to buy in China as a status symbol?

A Buick!

 

[drankin]

Of course it recycling. Is there a downside to that?

Quality of the steel. For example, most hydraulic fittings you get nowadays are made in China and the pressure ratings had to be reduced because of the inferior quality of the steel used. I would assume that is because of the recycling process they use.

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Quality of the steel. For example, most hydraulic fittings you get nowadays are made in China and the pressure ratings had to be reduced because of the inferior quality of the steel used. I would assume that is because of the recycling process they use.

Disclaimer prediction:

这一辆车被用于军事目的的所有类型的地形，但是它应该只适用于道路。

This vehicle was designed for military use on all types of terrain, however it should only be used on paved roads.

 

[mgb_phys]

And Land Rover was sold to the Indians. Looks like the next war is going to have to be somewhere with freeways.

 

[LowlyPion]

And Land Rover was sold to the Indians. Looks like the next war is going to have to be somewhere with freeways.

And plenty of gasoline.

 

[waht]

And Land Rover was sold to the Indians.

along with Jaguar in 2008. But it's too early to tell what the next models will be like.

 

[edward]

The times they are a changing.

In 05 so many people were opposed to China buying Maytag that China opted out.

 

[mgb_phys]

In 05 so many people were opposed to China buying Maytag that China opted out.

So they didn't gain a lead in strategic laundry technology!

Ironically 'zanussi' is one of the most popular brands in the UK because almost everybody believes they are Japanese. In surveys nobody would buy the same machine when they were told they were Italian.

 

[f95toli]

Likely means that they will be making transports for the Chinese Army.

Possibly, although the Hummer is strictly speaking not really a "civilian version" of a military vehicle. It is true that it is based on the Humvee; but the HMMWV is not even manufactured by GM (it is made by a defence contractor, GM just licensed the design).

I.e the Chinese company is NOT taking over the factories that are manufacturing the Humvee; nor will they have access to any classified technology used in the Humvee.

 

[mgb_phys]

Possibly, although the Hummer is strictly speaking not really a "civilian version" of a military vehicle. It is true that it is based on the Humvee; but the HMMWV is not even manufactured by GM (it is made by a defence contractor, GM just licensed the design).

Yes but why spoil a fun story?

nor will they have access to any classified technology used in the Humvee.

But they will gain vital knowledge of how to fit cup-holders, shiny aluminium wheels, and other bling.

 

[Borg]

But they will gain vital knowledge of how to fit cup-holders, shiny aluminium wheels, and other bling.

And subcontractors will eventually start substituting lead on the US version until the wheels fall apart.

 

[LowlyPion]

nor will they have access to any classified technology used in the Humvee.

You mean that there is actually something in a Hummer that's Classified, other than how to use as much gas as possible to go as short a trip as possible?

 

[f95toli]

You mean that there is actually something in a Hummer that's Classified, other than how to use as much gas as possible to go as short a trip as possible?

Not in a Hummer, but possibly in the Humvee

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Here we go. As per the previous reference:

Buick bucks the trend
GM brand is No. 1 car seller in China, thanks to smart marketing

NBC News
updated 10:25 a.m. PT, Mon., May 15, 2006

SHANGHAI - When Lin Hui and his wife went shopping in Shanghai for their first car, they splurged, spending $17,000 on their dream machine.

It was a Buick.

“It’s safe, it’s comfortable, and the look is beautiful,” Lin said...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12801549/

Just what the world needs - 10 or 20 million more Buicks!

 

[mgb_phys]

You mean that there is actually something in a Hummer that's Classified, other than how to use as much gas as possible to go as short a trip as possible?

I think the military version is a hybrid - so it must be green ;-)

 

[Ivan Seeking]

Another casualty

Procter & Gamble Co. plans to pull its storied Max Factor brand from U.S. stores, as it refines its portfolio for the most bang from its brands.

...Max Factor was founded 100 years ago by make-up artist Maximilian Faktorowicz, who made his bones as a make-up artist in Hollywood during the 1920s and ‘30s. He in fact coined the term “makeup.” P&G bought the brand, from Revlon, in 1991..

http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2009/06/01/daily67.html

I was a Crew Cut Wax guy myself

 

[Proton Soup]

Hummers are a joke. Be safe and buy a school bus.

http://necromanc.blogspot.com/2006/12/hummer-vs-school-buss.html

as for the recycling, even the steel from the twin towers was sold as scrap and recycled.

 

[IwillBeGood]

It is clearly that except the Hummer itself there was no one injured.
That is lucky.

 

[Moonbear]

Another casualty


http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/stories/2009/06/01/daily67.html

I was a Crew Cut Wax guy myself

Uh oh! My mom's going to be unhappy about that. She still insists on using a Max Factor foundation about 3 shades too dark for her skin tone, and swears it's the only one that doesn't make her skin break out...not that she's dared try another brand since she was a teenager.

 

[mgb_phys]

as for the recycling, even the steel from the twin towers was sold as scrap and recycled.

Most modern steel plants need to use at least 20-25% recycled steel, mostly to control the temperature but also to adjust the alloy.
I don't know if there are any places that could make steel from virgin iron - are there any open hearth plants today?

Of course you have to be careful of the process but adding steel to a blast furnace doesn't necessarily give you bad steel.

 

[Proton Soup]

Most modern steel plants need to use at least 20-25% recycled steel, mostly to control the temperature but also to adjust the alloy.
I don't know if there are any places that could make steel from virgin iron - are there any open hearth plants today?

Of course you have to be careful of the process but adding steel to a blast furnace doesn't necessarily give you bad steel.

dunno. i assume we had it all in birmingham at one point, but even iron pipe it seems is 90% recycled material

http://www.acipco.com/

 

[Phrak]

So what. The consumer Hummers are silly look-alikes without the hallmark ground clearance of the real thing. It belongs in Chinese knock-off heaven where things look perdy on the outside.

 

[mgb_phys]

dunno. i assume we had it all in birmingham at one point, but even iron pipe it seems is 90% recycled material

That's ironic, Birmingham (in the UK) is where iron working started in the industrial revolution, steel took off in Sheffield (where I'm from) - then I realized you meant Birmingham USA.

You can use as much recycled steel as you want in steel normally it's added to fresh steel in a remelting furnace - this is where you can make cheap crap by adding any old junk. The point was that it's impossible to make furnace steel from pig iron without adding a fair bit of recycled steel.

 

[Proton Soup]

That's ironic, Birmingham (in the UK) is where iron working started in the industrial revolution, steel took off in Sheffield (where I'm from) - then I realized you meant Birmingham USA.

do you also have a cement plant in Leeds?

http://www.lehighcement.com/AboutLehigh/PlantListing.pdf

 

[Moonbear]

So what. The consumer Hummers are silly look-alikes without the hallmark ground clearance of the real thing. It belongs in knock-off heaven where things look perdy on the outside.

They have their use. It's a quick way for us women to quickly determine which men are definitely jerks with small...um...feet. :uhh: Really, I see someone driving a Hummer and immediately think "a-hole."

 

[IwillBeGood]

What is "a-hole" ? It's a car hit so hard to the bus's back stock

 

[Phrak]

They have their use. It's a quick way for us women to quickly determine which men are definitely jerks with small...um...feet. :uhh: Really, I see someone driving a Hummer and immediately think "a-hole."

Ahem. I have feet of clay.

You've haven't seen the TV ad involving Miss Meek, showing up at the Hummer II dealer after encountering aggressive women-of-the-road. Hummers are for slim boned, unaggressive women, looking for Muscle Power, donch-ya know.