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The illegal alien problem, Huckabee and the 2008 elections

  1. Dec 30, 2007 #1
    This is basically the gist of Huckabee's immigration plan touchback provision:

    He would repeal the multi-year baring of illegals to re-enter the U.S. for illegals who register during a 120-day period with Homeland Security and temporarily exit the country (for only a few days, at most). It is also highly likely that many would not even leave the country but would be allowed to go to their nearest consulate on American soil for paperwork.

    They would face no penalty if they apply to immigrate back to U.S. (they'd be back in within just days). He would not utilize the current legal immigration law process for immigration to the U.S. but would set up special processing for these ‘special case formerly illegal’ immigrants. He also would reward these lawbreakers (and their law-breaking employers) by allowing the aliens to keep the very jobs they broke into the country and took. He wants them back in quick to slide back into the same jobs they had before their quick exit and return (touchback).

    Huckabee will utilize every trick in the book to legalize illegal aliens. He's just a bit more deceptive, shifty and crafty in how he hides the fact that he will provide amnesty. By all means, don't take my word on this if you are skeptical. Dig deep on Huckabee and look at the man behing the curtain. I'm betting you won't really care for what you see.

    Huckabee has stated that our economy would collapse without the presence of illegal aliens here. Really? My oh my...how did we manage to survive as a nation and grow our economy these past two centuries and well into the 1970's before the accelerated mass entries of illegal aliens? In 1986, our spineless Congressmen and Senators decided instead of dealing with the problem, they'd just give amnesty to the illegals so their incompetence, corruption, greed and dysfunction could be just swept under the rug. Then in 2007, they tried the same thing, but this time an educated, forceful, awake and fed up public citizenry stopped them in their tracks. Now their tookus is in a sling as they don't know what to do, so basically they are doing what they've been doing over the last 40 years...nothing as far as border security and immigration enforcement.

    2008 is a pivitol year, likely even a tipping point, in the history of America. Will we continue to be a strong, sovereign nation ruled by law or will we let the invasion continue until America's slide into anarchy is unstoppable?

    We need to elect a leader as President who will protect the value of U.S. citizenship, work for the citizens of America, fiercely protect our sovereignty, stop the march to globlism and the formation of the NAU, and solve our illegal immigration problem. That does not involve granting amnesty to illegal aliens. Huckabee is not your man if you care for those issues. Neither is McCain, Ghuliani of any of the Democrats.

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  3. Dec 30, 2007 #2
    Dont forget this stuff too:

    Don't you just love the candidates that the media picked out for us?
  4. Dec 30, 2007 #3
    Good point falc39. Huckabee (I like to call him Huckabillery in regards to his similarities to Hillary (Billary) Clinton) was rated in the Top Ten Most Corrupt Politicians in 2007 by the citizen watchdog group, Judicial Watch.

    When you pick a candidate, don't pick them on what they say they will do, pick them on what they have done. Huckabee's immigration record as Arkansas governor was dismal. And then, factor in the ethics issues and the tremendous amounts of pardons to murders, rapists and other felons. We cannot let this man become president.
  5. Dec 30, 2007 #4
    most of the candidates running for president are scared of the illegal alien issue and will not seriously tackle the problem. What I find amusing is the media and politicians constantly talking about Iraq this Iraq that while illegal immigration is the hotter topic. Congress will not take up this issue at least until AFTER elections because they know they risk their office if they do, so they keep quiet. In the meantime, they'll continue to talk about Iraq and pass legislation dealing with Iraq, though.
  6. Dec 31, 2007 #5


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    I wouldn't vote for Huckabee because he seems insistent on making his personal religion a main issue in his candidacy.
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    How can you call Huckabee weak on illegal immigration? Wasn't he the first candidate to propose a fence to keep illegal Pakistani immigrants from sneaking over the border?

    Huckabee Sees Pakistan as Reason for Border Fence

    If he wants to get elected, he should stick to the Marilyn Monroe syndrome. He should look like a nice guy and not say too many things requiring intellectual skills.

    Edit: Actually, to be fair, the Mexican border is becoming a more common route for Cuban immigrants. It's a bit of a stretch to extend that idea to a flood of Pakistani refugees pouring over the border, but at least it's founded in some sort of reality. More Cubans entering U.S. through Mexico
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  8. Dec 31, 2007 #7

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    I get the distinct sense of a man who has a hidden agenda. His slips and jokes have reenforced this notion.
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    Who knows.

    If you look at his record before he decided to run for President, his social positions were pretty consistent with what you'd expect of an ex-preacher, but his actual implementation was a lot more nuanced (or more liberal if you're of the right wing conservative inclination). He only truly joined the right wing conservatives during his current campaign. Being governor of Arkansas, his actual policies seem to fly under the radar a lot easier than Romney's (and wouldn't be nearly as big a change in character in any event).

    Going in, I'd say Huckabee had more character than all but a few (McCain, Obama, Dodds, Biden). All in all, he's looking less and less like a qualified candidate regardless of his character, which isn't holding up quite as well as it did before the campaign (but not many do).
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    His foreign policy 'thoughts' are frightening.
    This, for example:
    But what if the rest of the world thinks that those opposed to the Law of the Sea Treaty are arrogant?

    Huck, go back to your high school and write one million times on one of the whiteboards:

    "Foreign policy is nothing like high school. Foreign policy is nothing like high school. Foreign policy is nothing like high school.."
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