Inspired by DoctorDicks post. Maybe everything in the universe is logical in that it must all come to a conclusion that can be reversed, and that can be reproduced under the exact same cirumstances(if we know ALL empirical events leading up to that event.) For instance, you have 3 parties on saturday you are invited to, and the thought process used to find the solution, appears to not be "logical" per se. It appears to be ran by emotions, more than thought. But, the problem is that if the universe is indeed deterministic, then those emotions must be triggered by something else. Ironically, you should be able to reverse any event, abstract or not, back to its origin. That origin can very well be the big bang or some other fundamental universe creation event. Now on to the problem. Science is created to quantify, and then apply mathematics to the parts you quantify, to measure and calculate how those pieces work together, or where they end up. But as it stands now, there are some things in the universe math can never solve. For instance you can never describe how it feels to be happy with math, or describe really any kind of emotion or subjective experience. There was an experiment about this, where they tried to quantify and say "I'm "this" happy right now, but suddenly now I'm less happy than I was before." But this doesn't really solve the problem of how it feels to be happy, or the amount of happiness a person has. But isn't it odd then, that everything in the universe is logical? If there must be some underlying logic to everything, as there seems to be, then how/why do we seperate that logic from our subjective experience? The problem of the consciousness creations, and their place in the physical world is something that never ceases to astound me, but I begin to wonder sometimes if we are looking at it from completely the wrong perspective. Any insight would be appreciated.