The more political thread besides Japan Earthquake: nuclear plants scientific one

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New polls confirm that a majority of japanese prefer to pay more for their electricity than restart nuclear reactors:

http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/10/11/households-see-little-pain-in-higher-electricity-rates/

Households See Little Pain in Higher Electricity Rates


Despite the Japanese government’s efforts to win support for an early restart of nuclear power plants, a new survey shows that consumers are largely comfortable with the higher prices they have to pay for electricity generated by fossil fuels.



The Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry said late Wednesday that the nine utilities that own nuclear plants will likely spend ¥7.5 trillion ($76.75 billion) on natural gas, oil and coal in the current fiscal year ending in March. That is estimated to be ¥3.6 trillion more than if all of their nuclear power plants had been in operation. Eight of the nine utilities posted net losses in the last fiscal year due to the higher fuel bills.

While the data points to the higher costs for the nation of not using nuclear power, the ministry also released a survey suggesting that consumers want it that way.

The poll, conducted via the Internet this summer by government-funded think tank EnviroLife Research Institute, had responses from 1,085 living in the Tokyo, Osaka and Nagoya areas. Power prices in these areas have risen 19%, 25% and 16% respectively from the levels before the accident at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

According to the poll, 31% of the respondents said they didn’t feel the pain of higher power prices, 41% said they felt the pain “a little” and 29% said they felt the pain “very much.” Roughly half of them have been trying to cut power consumption by measures such as turning off lights, air conditioners and TVs, and raising the temperature settings of refrigerators and air conditioners.

Other surveys show a continued split among people over nuclear power, more than two years after the Fukushima disaster in March 2011. In a poll conducted Oct 5-6 by the Fuji television network, 60% of the 1,000 respondents said they are opposed to restarting nuclear power while 33% said they were in favor of restarts.

The ruling Liberal Democratic Party has won two national elections since late last year with a platform that included the restart of nuclear reactors. But former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi, a previous LDP leader who remains highly popular, recently made a fuss by declaring his opposition to nuclear power. His son, Shinjiro Koizumi, now a lawmaker, questioned his own party’s platform, saying on Monday that “voters have remained unconvinced, wondering if it’s all right to let reactors come back on line without further discussions.”

With plants shut down for regular maintenance in the time since March 2011, there are currently no nuclear reactors operating among the 50 commissioned units.
 
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But households are not the problem here, are they? I mean, nuclear provides power which mostly gets eaten by industry, no? Also, is there sufficient reserve capacity in Japan to cover maintenance outages at conventional plants, in the absence of nuclear??
 
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I like this one...
Tepco is always giving extraordinary answers and justifications.

http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/10/tepco-it-rained-significantly-heavily-only-once-in-2012-→-contaminated-water-overflowed-7-times/

Heavy rain happened 7 times this year instead once based on their calculations.
Tsunami wave was 15m high instead of 6.3m based on their calculations.

Nature doesn't like Tepco.

Landslide on plant after last Typhoon (new one coming...).

http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/10/photo-fukushima-plants-collapsed-slope-due-to-the-typhoon/

But for the coming typhoon, Tepco is now using TOP HIGH TECH to protect from overflow of rain water near tanks:

http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/10/photo-tepco-hung-the-cloth-over-the-tanks-typhoon-countermeasures/

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/news/library/movie-01e.html?bcpid=59368209002&bclid=347242463002&bctid=637262105002

Great stuff, guys... Fukushima circus is installing (for a loooong time).

Well, maybe all this lead to this comment from NRA (Nuclear Regulation Authority) chairman Tanaka:
"Fukushima plant situation is unpredictable"

http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/10/nra-fukushima-plant-situation-is-unpredictable/
 
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IAEA reorients the goals of japanese government for decontamination targets: protect populations is good, but "educate" people is better (and easier... maybe?)

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201310230076 [Broken]

Well...
 
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IAEA reorients the goals of japanese government for decontamination targets: protect populations is good, but "educate" people is better (and easier... maybe?)

http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201310230076 [Broken]

Well...
It's necessary. As far as I know Japan has a very serious civil defense setup. It should be used.
 
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Tentative early steps towards accepting US DOE help:

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2013/images/handouts_131101_03-e.pdf

TEPCO has been discussing with the national laboratories under the United States Department of Energy (DOE) (Savannah River National Laboratory (SRNL) and Pacific Northwest National Laboratory (PNNL) )on technical supports SRNL and PNNL could offer TEPCO regarding the decommissioning of Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station, and are currently reviewing on the details on five fields listed below.
1. Prevention of groundwater contamination
2. Water sealing for interior of reactor buildings
3. Waste treatment and disposal for decommissioning site
4. Fuel debris removal, storage and disposal
5. Contaminated water treatment
 
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This has me curious as to what TEPCO is up to.




TEPCO preparing new report on Fukushima

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/20131106_27.html [Broken]
 
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"I had thought a nuclear power plant in Japan was properly equipped with filter or something to remove iodine and other nuclides. I never imagined such wide areas were contaminated."
Some people sometimes always repeat that citizens are afraid by nuclear power because they are ignorant of the matter. This shows that the opposite can be very true also... A lot of them underestimate the risks because they are ignorant of them and believe in the "it must be safe" or "autorities will take care of everyhting" or "if they say it's ok then it should be ok..." blablah...

For the specific SPEEDI coverup, this is a pure scandal and i have only one word: disgusting. If people are sick or finally die because of this lie (in this case hidding data is lying of course), the people responsible for this should be sent to jail. Point.
 
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Some people sometimes always repeat that citizens are afraid by nuclear power because they are ignorant of the matter. This shows that the opposite can be very true also... A lot of them underestimate the risks because they are ignorant of them and believe in the "it must be safe" or "autorities will take care of everyhting" or "if they say it's ok then it should be ok..." blablah...
They do it when a few decades go by without serious incident while they listen to nuclear industry's PR that "everything is absolutely safe".

Now another accident happened and people aren't trusting nuclear again.

To escape this cycle, nuclear industry should do less PR and instead use their energy and money for *actual work towards making power stations safer*.
 
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... To escape this cycle, nuclear industry should do less PR and instead use their energy and money for *actual work towards making power stations safer*.
Can you point me to an example of this PR? When I turn on my TV, all I see is soothing ads from the Coal Council and the Nat Gas Association, telling me how clean and green their products are. Or well-placed spokesmen convincing me global warming is a hoax. Or news pieces telling me fracking is freeing us from the wacky religio-politics of the middle-east. I have never seen advertising from the nuclear power industry outside the trade magazines.
 

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Can you point me to an example of this PR? When I turn on my TV, all I see is soothing ads from the Coal Council and the Nat Gas Association, telling me how clean and green their products are. Or well-placed spokesmen convincing me global warming is a hoax. Or news pieces telling me fracking is freeing us from the wacky religio-politics of the middle-east. I have never seen advertising from the nuclear power industry outside the trade magazines.
You raise a good point.
The nuclear industry in the US is non existent in terms of public profile and now largely non existent in the financial sector, as the supplier base is largely foreign owned.
So the only publicity the industry gets is free publicity when things go wrong.

In retrospect, nuclear died in the US when Alvin Weinberg was fired. Subsequently, the AEC was abolished and the focus on energy broadly defined gave us the DOE and NRC we have today, vast organizations without a clear purpose.
 

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