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  1. Jan 12, 2006 #1
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060111/ts_usatoday/airportscreenersstrainssprainshighest" [Broken]

    Who knew?
     
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  3. Jan 12, 2006 #2

    matthyaouw

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    I'd still rather be that than an Alaskan king crab fisherman.
     
  4. Jan 12, 2006 #3
    I'd rather be that than an Alaskan king crab, fished.
     
  5. Jan 12, 2006 #4

    DaveC426913

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    Well, the misuse of the word 'danger' is key here...

    The injuries they are talking about are
    I'll bet Alaskan King Crab fisherman (those that live) dream about mere sprains...
     
  6. Jan 12, 2006 #5
    dang everybody said what i was going to say... :mad:

    i bet loggers have it bad also
     
  7. Jan 12, 2006 #6
    According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, for 2004 the highest rate was agriculture, forestry, fishing and hunting, followed closely by mining.
     
  8. Jan 12, 2006 #7

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    Yeah, I'd say there's quite a bit of difference between pulling a muscle in your back and sustaining a life-threatening injury.
     
  9. Jan 12, 2006 #8
    yep, it doesn't really seem to me to be any use calculating figures like that. other jobs are indeed more dangerous, even though this may be the one (of those sampled) with the highest injury rate.

    but then, who's to say what counts as an injury, paper cuts? broken nail? stubbed toe?

    could be linked to the average IQ of the workers i'll bet..
     
  10. Jan 12, 2006 #9

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    Yes. Let's not be bandying it about without due care and attention. :grumpy:
     
  11. Jan 12, 2006 #10
    i once read that being president was the most dangerous... the percent of presidents who've died in office was bigger than that for any other occupation...
     
  12. Jan 12, 2006 #11

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    Or maybe the screeners are just a bunch of whiners who realize they can exploit the system that employs them, particularly since there are no so many rules now that make it difficult for them to be fired.

    - Warren
     
  13. Jan 12, 2006 #12

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    I wasn't admonishing anyone. I was merely pointing out that when it comes to dangerous, sprains and spasms don't really cut it.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2006 #13

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    Sorry, Dave; that was supposed to be an indignant retort to having my name taken in vain. I guess that I should have used the grin smilie.
     
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    :rofl: ten characters
     
  16. Jan 12, 2006 #15
    If you count any kind of injury, then a job like maching tool operator probably has a 100% injury rate per day. Every place I worked people had to stop at least once a day to pull a tiny metal chip out of their hand. Some of these are so fine you can barely see them. Dial calipers make an excellent pair of tweezers for this.

    All chips produced by all machine tools are super sharp. It's almost like working around masses of broken glass. Turning some metals on the lathe in some set ups produces a tangled blob of serrated razor wire. Milling with a good, sharp end mill leaves a pile of sharp, pointy chips more dangerous than a porcupine. Mostly, though, people cut themselves on the burr left on the corners of the parts themselves.
     
  17. Jan 12, 2006 #16
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    Actually, that's an easy one. Anything that results in lost work time or productivity - at least enough to show up on the books.

    Stubbed toes and paper cuts may take a few minutes to kiss and make better, but that doesn't go on the books.
     
  19. Jan 12, 2006 #18

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    Do you purposefully use the wrong there just to annoy me??? :surprised :eek: :bugeye: :frown: :yuck: :cry: :mad: :grumpy:
     
  20. Jan 13, 2006 #19
    I don't remember making that report....


    Any how, seriously how many time sin your life have you wanted to throttle one of those people? I'd say it's a pretty dangerous job. People are grumpy about long lines at the airport and then they have some weirdo going through their things and asking them to take off their shoes and what not.
     
  21. Jan 13, 2006 #20

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    I believe that the article refers to those who screen (X-ray) the heavy bags, which are checked, not those which are carryon. The bag weight limit has been reduced from 70 lbs to 50 lbs.

    It would be interesting to compare TSA statistics with those of airline baggage handlers who actually do more lifting of the bags than the TSA screeners. Many sreening systems have conveyor belts on which the bags, most of which roll, can be placed, so there is little lifting.

    The problem is perhaps three-fold:
    1. Inadequate training of the screeners by TSA with regard to how to handle baggage

    2. The screeners do not exercise and their muscles are ill-suited to lift heavy bags. Following from #1, Weight-training should be part of the job (although TSA would probably expect any such training to be done on one's own time).

    3. Improper equipment such as back-support belts or harnesses to mitigate muscle strain. Ever see the airline baggage handlers and people at places like Home Depot wearing those black or orange harnesses around there waist? :rolleyes:

    I have worked construction (and a little logging), and believe me, that is way more dangerous than handling bags. Lost fingers, broken limbs, injured/broken backs, and even death are part of the risk - but someone has to do it. Many industries have training programs designed to make workers more aware of the danger and more thoughtful about how the work is accomplished in order to minimize injury or fatality. However, some industries have little (poor) or no such training.
     
  22. Jan 13, 2006 #21

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    One of the really cool things about my job is that I get to see a many different types of industry, up close and personal. But every now and then I see a place that is simply hard to believe. Some of the jobs that I have passed on include:

    An onion processing plant. My eyes started to water while I was still in the parking lot. It was forty degrees F inside, wet floors, an electricians nightmare, and something hundred pound buckets flying around on long chains that hung from trolleys, one of which nearly hit me in the head - oh, watch that the guy says. Many of the worker's families were sleeping in station wagons in the parking lot.

    A plating plant.
    Cyanide was everywhere. I mean this place was a toxic waste dump.

    A plant that used many large metal-cutting machines, where many of the employees were missing a finger... or two, and... I swear... the safety manager was a one-armed guy called lefty - a casualty of the plant.

    A guy at a certain potato chip plant fell into a large vat of boiling oil. Another drowned in a tower of cooking oil.

    I turned down one job when warned that I was eliminating a lot of jobs and not to go up on the catwalks. :surprised Nice place!
     
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    Don't work at an oil refinery. I don't recommend it.
     
  24. Jan 13, 2006 #23

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    I worked at an oil refinery in the compound and packaging department. The job was mostly unloading trucks and railroad cars of empty containers, e.g. 55 gal oil drums, and occasionally smaller drums for transmission fluid.

    One time I fell out of freight car (box car) sideways and fractured a rib. The swelling was great enough, that I could not tell I broke my rib (fortunately it did not break the skin nor puncture the lung). I went to the infirmary where a doctor and nursing assistant tried but failed to get the X-ray working. :rolleyes: I took some aspirin and put ice on the swollen area. I went back to work, in a lot of pain. But the refinery achieved 1 million man-hours without a lost time accident (a record for the plant) - because I went back to work. The day after the record was achieved, some guy got electrocuted and was sent to the hospital.

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    In another funny story, I almost got fired for handling too much weight. There were three leaking drums of lubrication oil, each weighing 120 lbs (54.4 kgs). We had to move them from a shipping pallet to a sump to drain the oil off and prevent a spill on the production floor. One guys started rolling his drum, leaking oil on the floor, which I thought was pretty stupid. So I picked up my drum and started walking quickly to the sump. Guys started yelling at me to put the drum down, and the supervisor told me to stop and put down the drum and roll it, stating "You can't lift 120 lb!" I thought that was a ridiculous statement, because I was standing there in front of the supervisor quite obviously holding the drum in one arm without much effort. I explained that I routinely worked out with heavier weights. Then the supervisor explained to me that under union rules, no one was allowed to lift more than 50 lbs, and that if I did it again, I was going to be fired. When I did it again, I made sure no one was looking. :biggrin:
     
  25. Aug 19, 2008 #24
    I have found that the most dangerous jobs are:

    1) Mercury mining
    2) Arctic and subarctic fishing
    3) Farming
    4) EOD (Explosive Ordnance Disposal)
    5) Mining (below ground not strip mining)
    6) Metal refining, including furnace lancing, etc
    7) Industrial cleanup, including cleaning chemical reactors, heat exchangers etc
    8) Deep sea diving ocean salvage
    9) Shallow diving depths of less than 100ft
    10) High-rise construction worker

    And my main definition of 'hazardous' is directly based on the probability that the job in question will kill you if you had such a field of work.

    Mercury mining one is constantly exposed to mercury vapor and rock fall.
    Any kind of fishing exposes one to extreme weather conditions in which the probability of being rescued can be small to nil.
    Farming can be extremely dangerous, I personally know of a farmer getting his arm ripped off, when he fell into a spinning PTO shaft, another fellow had a three quarter ton round bale fall off his front end loader onto him wile he was on his tractor and broke his back, he was on that tractor for ten hours before he was found, I my self suffered three broken ribs when I was trampled.
    The main danger of EOD is being blown to pieces if you make a mistake, like removing a 2000lb UXB from a factory.
    In mining there is the constant risk of rock fall, coke damp, and poison gas. Now you might be thinking "Neutrino detectors are located in mines how can they be that unsafe?" well that is because they are no longer being worked.
    Metal refining exposes a person to lethal chemicals like cyanide and temperatures, and getting hit by a 20lb blob of white hot steel will make a mess out of you.
    In industrial cleanup one can be exposed to all kinds of chemicals, and hydrolic cleaner rams can punch a hole through a person like a 90mil at point blank range, and fall risk such a falling in a 200ft tower or down a 500ft utility shaft (safety belts are rarely used).
    Diving both shallow and deep exposes one to nitrogen narcosis, decompression sickness, equipment malfunction causing your mixture to being wrong (too much oxygen or helium during deep dives).
    High-rise construction presents many hazards such as being crushed, falling, and being impaled on rebar.

    And as I stated before I was a farmer for nearly 30 years (had to pay college expenses somehow) and getting your hands and arms occasionally slashed by barbed wire, getting tagged by a horse or cow, slipping and falling face first into a tractor drawbar, being nailed by a 2000lb bull, and having implements drop on ones person; and doing the job in rain, storm, snow, ice, flood, high wind, and blazing summer heat; wile are not common occurrences are rather likely to happen unless one is extremely vigilant and some times it is going to happen like wile running fence and your horse spooks and explodes under you and you are just lucky enough not to fall into the fence, split your skull, break your back, neck, other parts of your anatomy, or worse having 1200 pounds of frightened equine coming down on top of you are things that can just happen without the slightest indication.

    Now there are other positions, jobs, and other dangerous jobs that are equally dangerous, such as being a firefighter, or an infantryman during time of war, to name a few but as I said before I believe that the measure of danger in this case is directly proportional to probability of mortality over time. If your a postman or post woman you are not very likely to die of a paper cut, unless it has anthrax on it.
     
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  26. Aug 19, 2008 #25
    Wow, that thread came from the deep. Anyway, I see that pilots are not on the list. I knew that :approve:
     
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