Path Retraced: Find Condition for Elastic Collision

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In summary, the necessary condition for a projectile fired at an angle theta from an inclined plane of angle of inclination alpha to retrace its path after colliding with another inclined plane of angle of inclination beta is that the particle must strike the second plane at an angle of inclination m = theta - alpha + beta, where m is the angle of incidence. This condition is derived from the conservation of momentum and energy, where the particle's velocity must be exactly reversed upon collision for it to follow its original path. Additionally, the particle must strike the second plane normal to its surface for the path to be retraced.
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A)find the condition such that a "projectile fired at an angle theta from an inclined plane of angle of inclination "alpha" on to another inclined plane of angle of inclination "beta" retraces its path after the first collision"?

NOTE : the collision is elastic, alpha not equal to beta. i hav attached the fig.

B)I used the conservation of momentum to do the problem
My try at the problem

c)Now consider the particle to be ejected at a velocity v at an angle of inclination theta to the plane. For the particle to retrace its on upon striking the inclined surface beta the direction of the velocities should be exactly reversed then itself it is going to retrace the path it came by.

Now we have velocities along the x and y direction to be
v_x = vcos (theta-alpha)

v_y = vsin(theta-alpha)

Now there is force acting on the particle is mg then how come it is a elastic collision. I will through by the energy aspect first consider that the ball goes to a maximum height, it gains potential energy and now it comes down to the same height then it loses potential energy. Therefore the net change is zero. Now the momentum aspect. Since the particle returns to its own speed . Now there is a momentum change but here e have to consider the system as the earth+configuartion present for the energy and the momentum to be conserved.

As explained earlier that the particle upon colliding with the inclined plane gets its direction (velocity) reversed. Now for the particle to come back and follow its own path

v_2 sin(m-beta) = v_y

v_2 cos(m-beta) = v_x

By energy conservation we have
1/2mv^2 = 1/2mv_2^2
Now we have v= v_2

and by the definition of an elastic collision if there is no any loss of translation K.E into any other form of energy. Otherwise the collision is not an elastic one

Now the momentum conservation
v cos(theta-alpha) = v_2 cos (m-beta)

Now we have
theta – alpha = m-beta
That gives m = theta-alpha+beta

So therefore the particle must strike the plane at an angle
m = theta- alpha+beta

So the neceesary condition is that
m = theta – alpha+beta
 

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It is simple if we say that for the path to be retraced, the particle should collide normal to the surface of incline because if the particle hits in any other way the direction of velocity will make same angle with the normal like reflection of light (in case of elastic collision only)
 
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In an elastic collision, the total kinetic energy of the system is conserved. In this scenario, the projectile has initial kinetic energy and potential energy due to its initial velocity and height on the first inclined plane. When it collides with the second inclined plane, it gains potential energy again due to its increased height, but then loses that potential energy as it returns to its original height. This results in the total change in kinetic energy being zero, satisfying the condition for an elastic collision.

In addition, momentum must also be conserved in an elastic collision. In this case, the direction of the velocity of the particle must be exactly reversed upon collision with the second inclined plane in order for it to retrace its path. This can be achieved if the angle of incidence (m) is equal to the angle of reflection (theta-alpha+beta). Therefore, the necessary condition for an elastic collision in this scenario is m = theta-alpha+beta.

It is important to note that this condition only applies if the collision is elastic and if the angles of the two inclined planes are not equal (alpha not equal to beta). If the collision is not elastic, then the necessary condition for the particle to retrace its path may be different. Additionally, if the angles of the two inclined planes are equal, then the particle will not retrace its path regardless of whether the collision is elastic or not.

In summary, the necessary condition for a projectile fired from one inclined plane to retrace its path after colliding with another inclined plane is that the collision must be elastic and the angle of incidence (m) must be equal to the angle of reflection (theta-alpha+beta).
 

1. What is an elastic collision?

An elastic collision is a type of collision where the total kinetic energy of the system is conserved. This means that the total energy before and after the collision remains the same.

2. What is the formula for elastic collision?

The formula for elastic collision is m1v1 + m2v2 = m1u1 + m2u2, where m represents the mass of the object, v represents the initial velocity, and u represents the final velocity.

3. How is momentum conserved in an elastic collision?

In an elastic collision, the total momentum of the system is conserved. This means that the total mass multiplied by the velocity before the collision is equal to the total mass multiplied by the velocity after the collision.

4. What is the condition for elastic collision?

The condition for elastic collision is that the objects involved must be perfectly elastic, meaning that they do not deform or lose any kinetic energy during the collision.

5. How is the condition for elastic collision verified experimentally?

The condition for elastic collision can be verified experimentally by measuring the velocities and masses of the objects before and after the collision and plugging them into the elastic collision formula. If the total kinetic energy is conserved, then the condition for elastic collision is met.

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