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In summary: I would expect from a president...would be more substance.In summary, Obama has not changed his position on drilling for oil. He still opposes the practice. However, he has shifted his stance to accept it if it is a necessary part of a compromise. He also said that Hollywood and the mainstream media are to blame for some of the negative perceptions of him.
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WhoWee said:
Obama is an expert on government (supposedly) because of his background and training (law school?) and on the mortgage crisis because of affiliations with Acorn?
This whole acorn nonsense is such a bunch of hooey!

Incidentally, you haven't watched the keynote speech McCain gave a couple years ago at an Acorn event, have you?
 
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Evo said:
Which would make Obama the only common sense choice. He is less likely to go along with BS out of the Pentagon than a career military person that has lived to take orders, without question, from the Pentagon for 22 years.

Didn't McCain re-negotiate a few military contracts?
 
  • #143
WhoWee said:
Didn't McCain re-negotiate a few military contracts?
He tried to scuttle a military contract that was awarded to Airbus to build a new fleet of refueling tankers for the air force, and get it awarded to Boeing instead. Is that re-negotiation?
 
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No, that's cronism or if you consider what he was supposed to get in return - bribbery.
 
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turbo-1 said:
He tried to scuttle a military contract that was awarded to Airbus to build a new fleet of refueling tankers for the air force, and get it awarded to Boeing instead. Is that re-negotiation?

Scuttle? Well I guess a well trained Naval Officer would scuttle the boat that don't float. Obviously Senator McCain acted in the best interests of the tax payers...and YES, investigating a bad contract and re-bidding a new one would be a re-negotiation.
 
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Amp1 said:
No, that's cronism or if you consider what he was supposed to get in return - bribbery.

That's a very serious charge to make against a public official...I think you should forward your proof to the Attorney General's office as soon as possible.
 
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Evo said:
Which would make Obama the only common sense choice. He is less likely to go along with BS out of the Pentagon ...
The trick is wading through it - knowing what is BS and what's not. Like when when the Army Chief of Staff said pre-war that Iraq would require many more troops to do the job - some Pentagon 'BS' that Bush/Rumsfeld should have gone along on.

On the other hand, much of Pentagon leadership basically are in love with having a large, bright and shiny military that only that is only used to run large and slow to execute plays that show off that military and defend it's large budgets, even to the detriment of more important US security issues. Bob Woodward's last book demonstrated how this issue surfaced recently in Iraq, where pre-surge the Pentagon favoured just hunkering down inside the colossal US bases in Iraq indefinitely, accepting the horrendous status quo. The point here: experience helps in wading through the BS.

A similar example that will immediately concern an Obama Admin: he's repeatedly said he would make greater use of US Special Forces in places like Iraq during a draw down, an policy certainly with advantages, but one that is very complicated and tricky, as SF does not have the staying power to be dropped off and left alone - Somalia and the Black Hawk down episode are an infamous example of getting that wrong.
 

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