further to earlier question on whether soul exists...I have been plagued by poltergeist like happenings since I was a kid. Either some dead person wishes to talk to me soooo badly that I'm being stalked by a ghostie...l.o.l....or my mind gets miffed and moves things around so that I notice it. I don't think that my mind and it's ephemeral body can be seperate as some of the stuff that moved needed hands to do it....so therefore my mind must have the capacity at least of being attached to a metaphysical body. Can you dislodge the self from the siritual consciosness? You are not just conscious of your mind per se...but conscious of your whole self.....which means that on seperation you should..if you are good enough...be able to utilise all your metabody parts to move objects etcetera. Some of the stuff I have seen requires thumbs to acheive...so therefore, far from being just a ball of energy floating out into the envoirenment ...it must be a whole body awareness...otherwise the lid on my shampoo bottle would have stayed where it was...unles of course my oobe self has found a way to use thumblike movements whilst clumped in a mass of pure energy...and what would be the point of that...when my conscioussness already "knows" my "self" inside out...forgive the pun..l.o.l. Why would you bother changing your metaphysical identity if it were already working being a double of you? I call also the rapping noises of the poltergeist.....why would you mind butt the wall when you already have a metaphyisical hand to do the job?