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The Star Trek (Voyager).

  1. Aug 10, 2013 #1
    IMHO, the best stories,

    Watched all of the Capt Jean Luc Picard and sometimes fell asleep. Never a dull moment with Capt Janeway.

    And they have 7 of 9 who has a great figure. Love her acting!

    Better physician on board.

    Tuvok as good as Spock.

    Chapters are almost always related.
     
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  3. Aug 10, 2013 #2

    reenmachine

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    Oh come on , TNG is the best Star Trek series. :mad:
     
  4. Aug 11, 2013 #3

    Drakkith

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    TNG was much set at a much slower pace than VOY.
    I think TNG had better quality stories, but VOY had much more excitement and action. (But not always higher quality excitement and action. First time the Enterprise encountered the Borg... sweet jesus...)
    I loved both shows, and there were many memorable scenes from both of them.

    But I do have to give props to TNG for having, hands down, the greatest series finale I've ever seen. The episode 'All Good Things' was absolutely fantastic and completely wrapped up the entire series in my opinion. Voyagers series finale made me want to throw an axe at the TV.
     
  5. Aug 11, 2013 #4

    strangerep

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    Nah. Too cute. Needed more tragedy.

    Yeah, me too.

    I hate the way the Star Trek writers insisted on lazily abusing the cliche of time-travel. Also would have preferred that Naomi Wildman :yuck: be ripped to bits by species 8472. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Species_8472

    Actually, I wanted to throw an axe at the producers for not terminating the Voyager series.
    Same for "Enterprise".
     
  6. Aug 11, 2013 #5
    I saw the original Star Trek in the 60s in real time and quite a bit of TNG.


    I have Netflix and started to watch TNG from beginning to end. I never saw Voyager in real time and so far I am in year 5.

    It is unfair to compare the original series, but having great characters and chemistry is great.

    I feel the characters and chemistry in Voyager is better than in TNG. As good as Jean Luc was Capt Janeway is a bit bitter.

    The hologram doc is amazing and much better. Tuvok is great and I guess takes the spot of Data in the series. The romance possibilities are greater in Voyager and I often feel Chacote and the Capt will get it on.

    The stories around 7 of 9 are priceless. And as I said she has such a hot body. I read somewhere that getting out of the outfit to go to the bathroom was difficult.

    I don't know what happens at the end. I am not there yet, but it seems they don't make it.
     
  7. Aug 11, 2013 #6

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    TNG is a classic. It was a positive uplifiting show with great actors, good characters and good stories.

    Voyager was Syfy trash. Tom, Belanna, Naomi Wildman, the Borg Kids, The Doctor and Neelix were almost too obnoxious to stand. Harry Kim and Tuvok were boring. Kes had to have one of the most retarded premises for a character ever conceived. Chakotay had potential but ended up being a token mishmash of every non-descript native american stereotype. Seven of Nine was the only interesting character on the show. Captain Janeway was pretty good as a captain but they hardly ever tried to make her anything more than that.

    I will give it some credit though, there are a few episodes that are real gems: Both the 'Fair Haven' episodes are charming. There was one about PTSD that was good. The 7 of 9 episodes where The Doctor is trying to teach her social skills are also fun.
     
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  8. Aug 11, 2013 #7
    I do agree with the over the top situations and characters. I do not like Kneelix at all. But, the number of episodes where I was a bit uninterested was greater in TNG. There were too many Q episodes and that took the fun out of true SiFi.

    I loved data and the stories around him were amazing.

    I have not seen Deep Space Nine. How is it in relationship to Voyager and TNG?
     
  9. Aug 11, 2013 #8

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    I never understood the obsession over fast-paced movies/series.I prefer a slower pace to be honest.And this is Star Trek , I don't really watch it for the action per say.
     
  10. Aug 11, 2013 #9

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    DS9 was interesting. It was kind of a cross between the other two shows. It can get a bit boring at times, but once the Dominion War starts in the 4th or 5th season it really ramps up I think. Plus it has some great reoccurring villians, like Gul Dukot.
     
  11. Aug 11, 2013 #10
    Action in Voyager is minimal and often implied. Iy may appear to have more action scenes because the technology to make SiFi is better than in the old series. So Voyager has better visuals than TNG.
     
  12. Aug 14, 2013 #11

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    TNG is like an old friend. my wife and I have been watching and re watching episodes for 26 years.
    DS9 comes in as a close second. it had a very differ feel from TNG but the acting was decent. The character development in DS9 is phenomenal and they were not afraid to tackle issues like physiological problems and other issues such as one character dealing with readjusting to normal life after spending decades in an alien prison.
    other great moments involve the dominion war and the actions characters are forced to resort to because of the war.
    I also think it had the most satisfying ending of all the shows.

    As the Voyager the only way I would have been satisfied with the ending is if it happened during the premiere episode :D
     
  13. Aug 15, 2013 #12
    Have not seen DS9.

    Some of the stories in Voyager are a bit goofy, but the ones in between are OK. Perhaps i simply like the Voyager actors and characters more than TNG.

    I am still on season 5 in Netflix. MAy do DS9 after I am done with this one.
     
  14. Aug 16, 2013 #13

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    I found the writing in Voyager very week and very often episodes would contradict one another. I will agree with you however that the Actors have a very good chemistry. They mesh together probably better then any of the other casts.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2013 #14

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    As much as I enjoy Star Trek (for the nostalgia mainly) this is true of every version of it and why it is bad science fiction IMO. Whilst science and technology are features of the franchise they are completely inconsistent. E.g.

    - People can't be replicated, except when they can
    - Shields are at maximum, except in episodes where they are tripled
    - FTL speeds are given in units of measurement, that mean nothing
    - The federation has strict laws about genetic engineering, which are sometimes forgotten with no comment
    - The creation of sentient life is a rare and ethically questionable achievement, unless you have a holodeck

    The list goes on and on. Even as a kid I found myself watching episodes thinking "why are they struggling with this when in the other episode it was no problem?"
     
  16. Aug 16, 2013 #15

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    Oh I can admit that. as I said my wife and I have been watching TNG on regular basis for two and a half decades and we will be the first to nitpick the heck out of. It was just something about Voyager's writing that really put me off.
     
  17. Aug 16, 2013 #16
    The writing in most of the episodes of Voyager or even TNG can be quite goofy. Sometimes I fast forward. However, every once in a while they come up with a gem.

    I enjoy the characters of Voyager much more than the TNG crew. I always loved Data--------- and the holodeck doc and 7 of 9 do a credible job in replacing the wit of Data.

    I like Janeway more thn Pickard, but they are probably equally good. I just enjoy the tension of Janeway with her crew a bit more.

    And lastly I am in love with 7 of 9. I love her as much as I love 6. It has been fun watching her development.
     
  18. Aug 16, 2013 #17

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    you have a thing for the hot blonde cyborgs :D
    I do like Jeri Ryan's Acting. I feel the scripts on Voyager were very limiting but I have seen her in various other shows and she knocks it out of the ballpark.
     
  19. Aug 16, 2013 #18
    Yeah, all the stories written around her are great. And she really does a great job. I am assuming she will pick a mate soon. I know in one episode she asked Kim if he wanted to copulate.

    Tuvok is good too. In one of the holodecks type episodes Leonardo Da Vinci asked Tuvok where he was from and he calmly replied "Scandinavia".


    I feel there is a bit more sexual tension in this series.
     
  20. Aug 16, 2013 #19

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    I would agree to that. The situation is very different for Voyager. they are stranded decades away from their home, possibly never seeing it again. it leaves for some very interesting relationships to be formed.
     
  21. Aug 17, 2013 #20

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    *Spoiler* -- no, she doesn't. The way they handle this unresolved point in the final episode was quite lame, imho.

    Try the "Star Trek -- Enterprise" series. They were a bit more liberal in dealing with a Vulcan's tensions around "that" time.
     
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