I am just posting FYI. I will say it one more time: Crop circles are real. They were studied by meteorologists as early as the 1940s. There clearly is a some kind of genuine phenomenon involved, but I think it is limited to simple circles, and it is purely terrestrial. I think the rest -the complicated ones and some simple ones - are fakes. http://www.sciencenews.org/20030628/mathtrek.asp Edit: Of course the modern UFO era also began in the 1940s. Also, it is widely claimed that no one has ever been caught making a crop circle. I know that this is not true, but it is mostly true. Considering how aggravating this stuff is for farmers, one would have expected to find an ET [=college student and the like] with some buckshot in his butt by now. Next, someone recently noticed that in a 13th century [I think] painting, one that some argue includes a UFO in the scene, and which does look very suspicious IMO, something that could easily be interpreted as a crop circle is seen just below the supposed UFO. Finally, I have seen one woman interviewed who I found to be very believable. She was about mid 50s in age at the time of the interview. The alleged sighting took place when she was very young...I think about ten to twelve years of age. She claimed to have been sitting in a field of tall grass when she heard a distinct humming sound. Right in front of her, she saw a simple circle flatten out in the grass all at once "like a giant invisible plate had been set down". Without drawing any conclusions otherwise, I [and Arthur Clark] found her to be very convincing. I am not usually quite so compelled by one story. To my knowledge, this is the only person who has ever claimed to see crop circle form. Even if all crop circles are hoaxes, I find this a little surprising. I'm not selling the point...just passing on some observations.