Thermodynamics: Lossy Capacitor

Q0 and then isolated) and Q2 = 0 (since the charge is leaking across the dielectric and being neutralized). Therefore, we can simplify the equation further to get:ΔS = -Q0/2C0 *T1/T0 - κ ln(T2/T0)Using the fact that Q = CTΔT, we can write:ΔS = -CT1ΔT/2C0 *T1/T0 - κ ln(T2/T0)Simplifying, we get:ΔS = -T1ΔT/2C0 - κ ln(T2/T0)Now, let's consider the final temperature (T2)
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Homework Statement



A capacitor is charged to Q0 and then isolated from its surroundings thermally, electrically, and mechanically. Over time the charge leaks across the dielectric filling and is neutralized. The Free Energy is given

F=Q2/2C0 *T/T0 + κT(1-lnT/T0)

κ, T0, and C0 are constants.

What is the final temperature T2 in terms of the inital temp. T1? What is the change in entropy?

Homework Equations



F=U-TS
S=-(dF/dT)Q
1st and 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, etc.

The Attempt at a Solution



Calculate S=-(dF/dT)Q
S=-Q2/(2C * T0) + κ ln(T/T0)

Observe that U (internal energy) is constant in the initial and final states. Equate U1=F1+T1S1 and U2=F2+T2S2

U1=Q2/2C *T1/T0 + κT1(1-lnT1/T0) + T1 [-Q2/(2C * T0) + κ ln(T/T0)]=κT1

U2=κT2(1-lnT2/T0) + T2 [κ ln(T/T0)]=κT2

U1=U2 -> κT1=κT2 -> T1 = T2

Basically this implies that there is no energy at all stored in the capacitor, and that when the charge dissipates it does not increase the temperature of the dielectric. This doesn't make sense. Where have I gone wrong? I would appreciate your help greatly.

PS. I calculated the entropy using this method but it seems pointless to post it since this answer is clearly wrong.
 
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Dear fellow scientist,

Thank you for your post. I believe the issue with your solution lies in the assumption that the internal energy (U) remains constant in the initial and final states. This may not be the case in this scenario as the charge is leaking across the dielectric and being neutralized, which could potentially lead to a change in internal energy.

Instead, let's consider the fact that the system is isolated from its surroundings, meaning there is no exchange of energy with the environment. This implies that the change in internal energy (ΔU) is equal to 0. Using the first law of thermodynamics, we can write:

ΔU = Q - W = 0

Where Q is the heat added to the system and W is the work done on the system. Since there is no work being done on the system, we can rewrite this equation as:

Q = 0

This means that the change in internal energy is solely due to the change in heat (ΔU = Q). Therefore, we can write:

ΔU = Q = TΔS

Where ΔS is the change in entropy. Rearranging this equation, we get:

ΔS = ΔU/T

Now, to calculate the change in entropy, we need to calculate the change in internal energy (ΔU). From the given equation for Free Energy (F), we can write:

ΔF = F2 - F1 = -Q2/2C0 *T2/T0 + κT2(1-lnT2/T0) - Q1/2C0 *T1/T0 + κT1(1-lnT1/T0)

Since the system is isolated, we can write:

ΔF = ΔU - TΔS = 0 - TΔS = -TΔS

Therefore, we can write:

-TΔS = -Q2/2C0 *T2/T0 + κT2(1-lnT2/T0) - Q1/2C0 *T1/T0 + κT1(1-lnT1/T0)

Rearranging and simplifying, we get:

ΔS = (Q2/2C0 *T2/T0 - Q1/2C0 *T1/T0) - κ ln(T2/T0)

Now, we know that Q1 = Q0 (since the
 

What is thermodynamics?

Thermodynamics is the study of energy and its transformations in physical systems. It is a branch of physics that deals with the relationship between heat, work, temperature, and energy.

What is a lossy capacitor?

A lossy capacitor is an electronic component that stores and releases electrical energy. It is designed to have some amount of internal resistance, causing it to dissipate energy in the form of heat.

How does thermodynamics relate to lossy capacitors?

Thermodynamics is used to understand the behavior of lossy capacitors, as they involve the transfer of heat and energy. The laws of thermodynamics help explain how energy is converted and dissipated in these devices.

What causes loss in a capacitor?

The loss in a capacitor is caused by the internal resistance within the device, which converts some of the electrical energy into heat. This resistance is typically due to the imperfect construction of the capacitor or the materials used.

What are the practical applications of lossy capacitors?

Lossy capacitors are commonly used in electronic circuits to filter out unwanted signals or noise. They are also used in power transmission systems to improve efficiency by reducing losses due to heat. Additionally, they are used in energy storage systems and electric motors.

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