I have to agree with you on this one, I hate this kind of sh*t.
I saw a video of that on the news earlier, horrible. It reminds me of a video of a group of kids kicking a dog on the streets and the dog crying....
I really hope they get the death penalty....
I saw that to, I don't know how people can do such a thing to someone else. I hope they do get the death penalty, you can't tell me they didn't know what they were doing.
i didnt know people can still get death panelties?
well, life sentence is the most they can get at my country...
and yeah, these kids are sick, what the hell were they thinking???
Life in prison is plenty of a penalty (too much actually)
Vengeance is not the reaction of a society that exists on any level of sophistication.
You're right, we should let them go
What part of "life in prison" or "less than that" (which can actually be quite some time) let you think I believe in lawlessness?
Vengeance is NOT a noble attribute, and trying to twist what I said in order to make me seem weird so that the idea of meting out punishment in anger looks appealing will not work.
What is your solution then?
What's the difference between life in prison and 20 years? Is one not vengeance while the other is? What is the correct punishment for murder and multiple attempted murders?
I was responding more towards the guttural anger and vengeful tone in the entire thread.
I am most certainly opposed to the death penalty (as should the "culture of life" republicans), and I agree with the ideas laid out in the constitution that punishment must match the crime. (originally missed the part about the one guy dying, so 25 to life is fine with me.)
Yes, life or execution is too much. But they should get locked up for awhile. They probably aren't going to be very productive citizens anyway.
Back where I used to live in Florida, at a middle school, last week, an eighth grader jumped up in class and announced he was going to kill somebody, after holding up a handgun. He ran out of the room. When the police got there, he ended up pointing his gun at them, and got his dumb ass shot. He ran into the bathroom, surrendered, and died on his way to the hospital. The gun turned out to be an air-gun. He must have thought it was real funny, he's not laughing anymore.
Sometimes I think that life or death penalty is too much because of the nature of the crime. For example, if a guy is drunk and stumbles into his house and notices that his wife is cheating on him with someone else. Certainly the guy should be barred for a while, but if the guy has no previous records of violence or anything, then I think that the guy is a much better person than people who have no respect for anyone and just go around killing homeless people with baseball bats. One of them was angry and drunk, the others don't deserve to be called human.
These people should either be put to death, or life in prison because of their f***ed up mentality. I don't see them ever turning into normal citizens.
This is very difficult for me to understand. Very disturbing. I cringe when I think about what the statistics for animal abuse must be. What is it about some teenage boys that makes them want to torture someone or something helpless?
I say we get some homlesse people to beat them to death, the irony.
The guy who stabbed me got 9 months. I thought it was a bit light.
I'd say homeless people aren't worth 20 years, first offense 3 years tops. second homeless murder 5 years plus probation as long as they promise to stop leaving so many clues
The second i saw tribdog made a reply, i knew it wasn't going to be pretty.
that's what I said when I heard your mom was pregnant
I'm a funny guy. I should get a ribbon
well, i think that (when youre not in immediate mortal threat) there is no justification in killing people.
saving society from them is the most you can do, and prison for life will save society from them, and there must be someone that can free them if they behave good enough and doesnt seem to pose any threat after they served a certain amount of the time.
Prison costs money :(
I've heard that it costs more to be put to death though, I think they should just shoot you in the head or something instead....
I have heard (perhaps apocryphal) stories about how Chinese dissidents were summarily shot in the head and their families were sent bills for the bullets. A modest proposal: Perhaps in the interest of parental responsibility, we should bill the parents of these monsters for the entire cost of their incarceration and offer them an open 50 cent option (the bullet).
I am not in favor of killing people - I offer this suggestion as an exercise in responsibility. Will the parents who allowed their children to evolve into such monsters take fiscal responsibility for the maintenance of their lives or choose to take ethical responsibility for the taking of their lives?
Should we start calling you King Solomon? I'd actually be pretty curious to just see which option their parents chose. Somehow, I have my doubts about how much they really care about their kids to have raised them in a manner that would lead the kids to act that way. I rather like the idea of sending the parents the bill for any juvenile offender...basically, like child support since the state has to take over raising their kids for them because they did such a lousy job of it.
Yes it does because you are automatically granted a costly and lengthy appeal whereas tossing someone in the hole for their life doesnt cost a thing :) (both excluding actual prison term costs).
In honor of my late ferret, you may call me the Ultimate Grand Weasel Bowler, because he loved me well enough to revel in "ferret bowling". That's when I would drum my fingers on the floor, and he would come running to me (making just a little game of staying out of reach) and I would grab him, flip him upside-down, tickle him, and scale him across the slick living room floor. He would thrash and turn and churn his little legs to gain traction until he could stop and run back to me, and the whole game would start over again. He loved that game and we would play for 20-30 minutes at a time, until he had to take a food/water/maybe nap break. If you want to shorten it to UGWB, I will understand, although I am showing my inexperience at creating acronyms.....:yuck:
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