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Thevenin Equivalent Circuit

  1. Jan 14, 2017 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
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    2. Relevant equations
    Thevenin Equivalents
    V = IR

    3. The attempt at a solution
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    To try to find R_th, I replaced all the voltages with short circuits but I do not what to do next.

    Then I believe V_th would just be the same as the voltage of the rightmost resistor.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2017
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  3. Jan 14, 2017 #2

    phinds

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    That implies you do not know how to combine resistances at all. I mean, if you take two series resistance, there is a short circuit (aka "a wire") between the two and it's even worse with parallel resistors since they have short circuits (aka "wires") between pairs of ends.
     
  4. Jan 14, 2017 #3

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    All points joined together by a short-circuit become a single node. So redraw the resistor circuit simplified by condensing nodes along each short-circuit wire into a single node.
     
  5. Jan 14, 2017 #4
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    This is how I ended up reducing the circuit, was this correct?
     
  6. Jan 14, 2017 #5

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    We are interested only in the resistance seen by the 2 external terminals. Other bits and pieces can be ignored.
     
  7. Jan 14, 2017 #6
    Would the resistance just then be 3R?
     
  8. Jan 14, 2017 #7

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    No. Where is your simplified circuit showing the external terminals?

    A consequence of a resistor having its ends shorted together is that no current will flow in that resistor (there being zero PD across it) so you can omit it from the circuit.
     
  9. Jan 27, 2017 #8
    See if this helps.

    Starting diagram:
    I've replaced resistors with red lines.
    The short circuit jumpers are shown in black.

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    The blue arrows show the direction the short circuit jumpers will collapse to the center.

    Let's just take the upper left section and see what happens when we collapse its short circuit jumper.

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    Now I have two resistors connected between the outside and the inside of the diagram. The straight red line is the original resistor and the curved red one is the one which moves due to the short circuit jumper.

    This leads to an equivalent R/2 between those points.

    You need to pursue this with the rest of the circuit and see what you get.

    Sorry I didn't have the energy to draw resistors but I hope you get the point.
     
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