Sorry if i repeat something already commented. I have been a few time out of these forum. I have recently returned to read about LQG. (i hhave been dedicated to another questions for a while) I had readed the review of Rovelli in livingreviews.org. I even readed superficially a book by Rovelly and another (doesnt remember who) about LQG writen in 1998. Also i had readed superficially the 92 pags review of thieman ( arXiv:gr-qc/0210094 v1 28 Oct 2002). Now i returned and printed the 303 ags review , also by theiman (arXiv:gr-qc/0110034 v1 5 Oct 2001). But i found it hard, and boring, so I printed the short article and readed it carfully. I also readed the original Asthekar article (new variables for hamiltonian formultaion of general relaitivity). Afhter reading boths I printed and readed an article by Rovelly (arXiv:gr-qc/9910079 v2 20 Dec 1999) titled "Loop Quantum Gravity and the Meaning of Dieomorphism Invariance". My feeling is that i have decently understood the basics of the matter. But i want to go further, as far as i can. ANd now it comes my doubt. Should i read the big article of Thieman? My math basics is good (i have been refreshing some things i have a bit forgoted) so i can read it. But anyway, does it desesrve to worry that much about catgories C* algebras, etc? Or maybe it is better to get another way? My interest is , now, reading about the inclusion of matter. About weaves, t gravitons and black holes. I know these topics are covered in the "big" article, but i am in the pag 92, and iam becoming very bored. Do you know some better articles to read aobut these concrete topics? Another question. I readed in the "short" article of Thieman the way the entropy of black holes was calculated. Also he told that the Hawkings radiation was not still deduced in the LQG formalim. Has ther been any recent advance in Dedcuing HAwking radiation form LQG?