It is surprising all threads are closed before giving me the chance to reply. I know, Daniel and rest, there are some things population do not want to hear, because: i) are deeply known truths ii) are not politically correct, because they damage the opinion of the rest of people about us, all submerged in a generalized hypocrisy. I started the discussion with Moses mainly because he mentioned the word "Spain" + "Reconquist of Al-Andalus" + "apologizing"+ "holocaust". He is deliberately lying and saying stupidities, he is taunting the History and I am not going to allow it on my presence. What you have said about Torquemada is completely true, it is written in the History and I would be so stupid if I try to deny this fact. The fact is: have you seen some Tomas de Torquemada over here any time right now? The answer is no: such horrible acts have been expulsated from here forever. On the contrary: Don't have you seen that former violence remains impressed nowadays in muslim world? That is my point of "human evolution". As you probably don't know, the 11M Madrid bombing was planned into a Mosque, and Mosque's religious leaders are the very first men who support the conflicts between occident and muslim worlds. Another spanish adage is: "La verdad es la verdad, la diga Agamenón o su porquero". "The truth is the truth, no matter who say it: Agamenon or his pig's farmer".