This looks pretty organic!

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We saw this originally on an Israel website, but it is here too:
We have been replaying these for a couple hours now. There are at least four different videos of the same event. Neat! :smile:

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/50545/ [Broken]
 
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These people say it's a hoax.

 
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Very interesting videos, if it's real I hope even more footage comes out.

I do wonder though; why didn't the person that was holding the camera in the first video pan up with it when it jumped up? That would have been my reaction.
 
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These people say it's a hoax.

I wonder if any of the news agencies have identified individuals that had footage, or if everything is off You Tube.
 
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Yeah, sure looks like a Hoax to me after viewing Lacy33 link.
 
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Here is where we first saw the videos and story:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/142126
Knowing that is a really sacred place on the planet to a lot of people, I know there must be a billion people that would like these to be authentic.

It was just the beginning of winter I'm thinking when I saw something very similar from our roof in NYC and it was over the Met Life Insurance building not such a sacred place. Ha.
Where the one I saw/watched did not lower like this one in the films, it did have a path , most interesting as my husband adds, it took off in the same manner, fast!
 
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Yeah, sure looks like a Hoax to me after viewing Lacy33 link.
You mean the things being done by the hoax people?

I thought it was a hoax too, but we replayed them for a couple hours listening to the people together with the visual.
 
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Very interesting videos, if it's real I hope even more footage comes out.

I do wonder though; why didn't the person that was holding the camera in the first video pan up with it when it jumped up? That would have been my reaction.
I understand you would have followed it with the camera. Could be it was a simple person like me filming that and I would have just looked up. :bugeye: Forget the camera.
The young men on the Haas Promenade did follow it up and we see some lights up there in the sky too. Redish glow of some sort.
 
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I understand you would have followed it with the camera.
Actually, I'd probably drop the thing.
 
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Actually, I'd probably drop the thing.
LOL, :rofl: I was going to say faint.
Just watching it with my husband, we are sweating and shaking at the thought that it might be real LOL :rofl:
Ya know as well as I do that ain't no small thing if it turns out to be real. LOL
:bugeye: {clunk}
 
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The thing with UFOs as aliens that doesn't make sense is that assuredly aliens could create machines we couldn't see, in the optical, as well as other spectrums. This doesn't require Star Trek-esque cloaking devices, but would be possible under known physics. We just don't have the engineering capability yet.

So these aliens are making visible machines, but they never do any dramatic display where it would be impossible for it to be denied. Think the ending of Close Encounters of the Third Kind happening over Tokyo or New York City. It's always dinky little lights or saucers skulking around. If they were trying to hide, they'd hide totally. If they were trying to make a display, boy howdy, you'd know it!
 
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The thing with UFOs as aliens that doesn't make sense is that assuredly aliens could create machines we couldn't see, in the optical, as well as other spectrums. This doesn't require Star Trek-esque cloaking devices, but would be possible under known physics. We just don't have the engineering capability yet.

So these aliens are making visible machines, but they never do any dramatic display where it would be impossible for it to be denied. Think the ending of Close Encounters of the Third Kind happening over Tokyo or New York City. It's always dinky little lights or saucers skulking around. If they were trying to hide, they'd hide totally. If they were trying to make a display, boy howdy, you'd know it!
Well I guess I would know it then.
But that's why I entitled this little thread "This looks pretty Organic!"
Ya know, what I have been looking at all day is not machanical in nature.
I think that if this real, they all want someone to see this light show.
 
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You mean you think this thing, if real, is piloted by a squishy meat-bag like us?

Impossible, the acceleration would turn them into a gory jam on the floor. Only a machine could survive an acceleration like that.

Someone should run the numbers on that object's acceleration. It may be that even a machine couldn't do it, that no material, even theoretical, could survive it without breaking.

Also, by what means does it move? Where's the rocket flame? This is the real world, not sci-fi; Newtonian physics rules.
 
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You mean you think this thing, if real, is piloted by a squishy meat-bag like us?

Impossible, the acceleration would turn them into a gory jam on the floor. Only a machine could survive an acceleration like that.

Someone should run the numbers on that object's acceleration. It may be that even a machine couldn't do it, that no material, even theoretical, could survive it without breaking.

Also, by what means does it move? Where's the rocket flame? This is the real world, not sci-fi; Newtonian physics rules.
That is pretty cute word play. Did you read the small article with the first link that quoted someone saying no one could withstand the g force?
Look at the links. Read it. Its fun! :biggrin:
 
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That must be Mubarak’s soul... going the wrong way!?!? :surprised
 
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Hey SkepticJ, My daughter has 3 geckos.
 
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That must be Mubarak’s soul... going the wrong way!?!? :surprised
If I were his soul I would be dashing off like that too! Waadda Thunk!~ :surprised
 
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They're wonderfully cute little animals.

Mine finally died of old age last year. It'll be some years before I get another.
 
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Well, those videos would be easy to fake. We live in a digital world. Millions of people have computers, and the sort of software needed to create effects like that is freely available.
Those effects could be done inside of an hour of work; I could do it.

What's more likely, aliens drop a hovering, glowing ball over a site holy to three major religions, or some people who could know each other make some videos to pull legs?

The videos don't have to be debunked, someone needs to point to something that couldn't have been faked by someone with a bit of time on their hands using After Effects, Maya, and Photoshop.
 
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Well, those videos would be easy to fake. We live in a digital world. Millions of people have computers, and the sort of software needed to create effects like that is freely available.
Those effects could be done inside of an hour of work; I could do it.

What's more likely, aliens drop a hovering, glowing ball over a site holy to three major religions, or some people who could know each other make some videos to pull legs?

The videos don't have to be debunked, someone needs to point to something that couldn't have been faked by someone with a bit of time on their hands using After Effects, Maya, and Photoshop.

Right. If no witnesses from different sectors of society see it with their own eyes. Then it must be a hoax perpetrated by a couple of people or so using CGI.
 
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'Just as a point of reference (regarding the difficulty [or lack-thereof] of making such a video), here is another video that seems pretty realistic. I'll post it here on this thread for the purpose of comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c
 
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'Just as a point of reference (regarding the difficulty [or lack-thereof] of making such a video), here is another video that seems pretty realistic. I'll post it here on this thread for the purpose of comparison.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfqDVP_0O0c
Oh c'mon. That doesn't look at all like the original video...:rolleyes:
 
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Really looked around and the debunkers are having a pretty hard time with this one.
I think there will be more videos coming out and I have put out my ear to the communities that would have been in that area at the time. They would not be talking to the media about this because ....for various reasons I'm sure I don't know.

I feel comfortable with the "organic" part of this "event," if that is what it is. What I don't like are those red lights that look to be a part of something NOT so organic for personal reasons.

People are very crafty with the electronics these days.
I'm waiting to see. An NO "one" better not show up outside my windows. Theraputic medication coverage for that, for me, would be instantly leathal. :yuck:
 

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