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Thoughts on holographic universe and existence in general

  1. Jan 14, 2004 #1
    Thoughts on holographic universe and existence in general....

    One night i was in a strange mood and wrote this... i dont really remember writing most of it... but i thought i would share with the community here and i am deffinitly searching for any feedback on my ideas that anyone might have!

    I am very interested in the holographic universe theory and i am interested in understanding the world more and understanding these ideas better... so please post up your thoughts!


    Holograms…
    A single energy source… a laser…
    Capable of making infinite unique projections…by simply changing the angle…

    What if…
    There is a big energy field out there…an infinite energy field…
    Like a hologram…this energy has infinite projections with infinite variations…

    What if…
    Every one of those infinite projections was a conscious...a conscious that is an individual...
    Us individuals… are merely projections of this greater ONE energy field…

    Science has proven…
    That everything we see, touch, smell… is merely an electrical impulse going to our brain…
    Therefore… The world that we perceive does not necessarily exist…

    Time…
    Is there really such a thing… called time?
    Is there a determined future and destiny for us… fate?
    Or are we living the moment… the moment…being created that very instant…
    Projected by this energy field… through us… no such thing as time… only… The Moment.

    The Sub-conscious…
    Hypnotherapy… the act talking directly to the sub-conscious…
    Hypnotherapy patients can be told not to bleed…and the body will respond accordingly…
    The sub-conscious efficiently and effectively resolves any task presented to it…
    So it is in control!

    What if…
    This sub-consciousness… is connected to all the other sub-consciousnesses in this energy field… the source…
    We are all connected through our sub-consciousnesses… to the collective of consciousnesses…
    Being connected with the collective of consciousnesses…we have access to infinite knowledge and wisdom…

    What if…
    The world we perceive is merely a projection just as we are?
    So we, as a collective consciousness, are in control of this projection…
    In control… with our subconscious…

    Stress…
    Active stress and preoccupation diverts you from successfully accomplishing any task…
    The more you stress and worry about it… the harder and harder it becomes to accomplish…
    When you cease stressing… a solution to the problem seems to be magically presented to you…
    It’s not magic… it’s your subconscious taking over the problem and efficiently resolving it…

    Prayer…
    People pray… to some unknown entity... to have their problems fade away…
    By praying… one lifts the burden from their shoulders… or so they believe…
    Stress and preoccupation are lessened… because now… it is in someone else’s hands…
    NO! It is not in someone else’s hands… it is up to your sub-conscious now…

    The Collective Consciousness
    This source energy… an infinite collection of sub-consciousnesses… a collective…

    “God”?
    An unknown entity creating solutions… or an infinite collective of individuals?
     
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  3. Jan 26, 2004 #2
    That was the first thing I've read in this forum that I totally agree with.

    You have a beautiful mind, and I understand every word you said.

    Rock on. Send more thoughts when you get the chance. You've got me interested.
     
  4. Jan 26, 2004 #3
    cool! its great to hear that someone thinks the same way! i havent been thinkin about this stuff much lately... too much on my mind being a full time student and working 54 hours a week...

    i will deff post up more when i get a chance to do sum thinking of my own... someone told me that plato has a theory where we are all projections and that if we saw what reality really is...we wouldnt understand it... i find that pretty fascinating and its right along my lines of thinking... im gonna see if i can find something on plato which i am capable of reading... u should look too and lemme know if u find sumthin good! hehe
     
  5. Jan 27, 2004 #4
    Definatly!

    I haven't been doing much thinking lately either. Heck, I'm only in high school, but the Chemistry is some pretty tough stuff. :)
     
  6. Apr 10, 2004 #5
    I think what your saying ties in closely to jung's collective consciousness theory and also with eastern philosophy, and the holographic universe theory of course ; )
    Your definately right about the subconscious, it alway does have the right answer when you let it in the driving seat so to speak.
    And as for the idea of a pool of knowledge and wisdom goes, from personal experience id say your probably right again. I once had an experience of the collective consiousness or what you might call a widening if my perception of the imediate consciousness around me. Pretty icredible stuff, very much like the scene in the matrix where neo is hooked up to the computer and can download or acess any skill or bit of knowledge he requires...it really was just like that.
     
  7. Apr 11, 2004 #6
    yea people have mentioned jung to me...telin me that his ideas are similar to mine... could you recommend a book or sumthing that i could read/watch to learn more about jung?

    when did you have that experience? did it just kind of spontanously happen?

    i have been noticing alot lately that whenver me and my friends come up with our own unique words... even tho we dont say them... they end up turning up in rap songs or in other ppl... which makes me think even more that everything is interconnected!

    i wish i could figure out a way to put my subconcious in the driver seat more often
     
  8. Apr 11, 2004 #7
    Sorry i dont really know any good jung books, i just know about his theorys from friends and surfing the net. :cool:
    As for letting the subconscious in the drivers seat more offen, yeah i wish i knew how to as well. I think the key is when say, you have a problem, is to do nothing about it but at the same time be aware at the back of your mind thats it something you'd like to solve. That useally does trick with me, couple of days latter and i have the answer. And sometimes the anwer doesnt actually come from me it comes from someone else. Which certainly does lead me to think that everything is inter-connected.
    As for my experience it happened when i was in a club, id done an e (which id done plenty of times before) but this time everything felt very different, i can only assume there must have been some ket in it :wink:
    I sat down and shut my eyes i felt linked with everyone in the room, if i had say wanted to enter someone elses head i felt this would be entirely possible but i didnt want to scare myself by attempting this or anyone else more to the point lol. While in this state a wide range of 'revelations' came to me one of which was a warning about a family memember which came true a month latter. Im sure alot of people would say i was mearly hallucinating as i was on drugs, but id say that was reductionist crap. There are several quantum scientists exploring the possibility that your mind can be retuned to percieve new information when taking drugs and i feel this is exactly what happened to me. Id really like to get hold of some more ket in the future as it fascilitated one of the most beautiful experiences of my life....
     
  9. Apr 12, 2004 #8
    i know exactly what you mean!

    i feel that our minds have are really restrained... at some point in our evolution we shut everything out.

    scientists have done experiments with LSD... they will have 2 ppl... in completely different rooms (cant communicate at all) and they will show one of the persons something and the person i nthe other room can tell you wht it is.

    deffinitly read The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. its about the theory that the universe is one giant hologram... its a really really good book which got me started thinking this way.

    i think our subconcious is always trying to tell us something... i think it has infnite wisdom... just that we dont listen/dont know how to listen to it.

    im sure dreams are when we connect with everyone else but we just dont know how to interpret these messages so in the translation they get screwed up and turned into things that seem completely strange and random... this happens during awake state too...but since our concious mind has so much going on in it... we dont hear/notice it as much.

    i guess when u were on E... you opened back up to the subconcious and you understood what it was trying to tell you about ur family member.
     
  10. May 25, 2004 #9
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    Me too! every now & then I seem to have a revelation of sorts and a certain subject or problem (once impossible) just opens up to me. If I stop thinking so intensly everything comes to me easier.

    This may or may not have bearing, but I take a lot of medications and I see things in dreams far more clearly when I"m on these. Maybe they open the sub-c a little more than usual. My dreams also have a massive amount of emotion to them, sometimes even physical sensations but that's another story.
     
  11. May 25, 2004 #10

    "To them, I said, the truth would be literally nothing but the shadows of the images" -Plato, The Republic (Book VII).
     
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  13. Jul 1, 2004 #12
  14. Jul 1, 2004 #13
    the experience that pocebokli had in that thread seems pretty much identical to this conscious energy field theory...
    he described his window as a "roof of the universe" in which he's watching himself from his own "ego". very interesting...
     
  15. Jul 2, 2004 #14
    Here is an interesting tidbit of info I found online recently dealing with the Holographic principle and the human brain.


    whole article here.
     
  16. Jul 2, 2004 #15
    Stan Grof

    Yeah I read Grof's book, "The Holotropic Mind". The book is heavy in spirtualism. His ideas portrayed in the book are shared by others as to how the brain seems to store information like a holgram would, more or less evenly across the brain. He points out if someone loses hearing in one ear they can still do sound location with just one ear showing that the sense of sound operates holographically.
    I also read Micheal Talbot's book, "The Holographic Universe" and liked it. It too like "The Holotropic Mind" is deep in mysticism. Physicist David Bohm was, like myself, big on the idea of a holographic universe
    It sounds logical to me that the universe is wave interference.
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2004
  17. Jul 31, 2004 #16
    what you proposed sounds very reasonable, but i disagree with what you said about prayer. it is not our sub-concsious we are praying to, or taking over. in that case there is a bigger force involved. maybe God is the one who helps us find our sub-concsious, which, in tern, solves our prob.
     
  18. Mar 16, 2005 #17
    Hi everyone, wanted to reopen this discussion to see if anyone had any further thoughts on the topic and to see if we can get any new thoughts in.
     
  19. Mar 17, 2005 #18
    I am a deep believer in the holographic model of the universe. It is very symmetrical and the fact that at its basic level it depends on wave interference makes it very attractive.
    -The universe is a mirror from head to foot- a sufi mystic
     
  20. Mar 17, 2005 #19
    I spoke about this just yesterday with a professor of mine. She gave me some videos to watch on String Theory. Explain something to me.

    My professor said that with the holographic universe theory, it is proposed that each part of the universe contains all of the universe within it. What do you make of this?
     
  21. Mar 17, 2005 #20
    What I remember from reading the book The Holographic Universe, is that the way holograms work is that every peice of it contains all the information for the entire hologram... so that if you split it into peices, each individual peice would still be able to project the entire hologram.

    So i think this applies to what you said about the universe containing all of the universe within it. Maybe someone with a little more knowledge of holograms could expand on this?

    -Rody
     
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