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Complaint Thread moved to HW forums.

  1. Sep 11, 2010 #1

    somasimple

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    Hi all,

    1/ I'm a not a student and I'm not actually following any courses.
    2/ I created a thread with personal figures in the classics physics forums, seeking an answer from experts as usually.
    3/ The thread was moved to the HW forums.
    4/ I received an infraction for some unknown reason by ZaperZ.
    5/ And this moderator refuses to move back the thread to the right forum.
    6/ I want the thread to be moved back since I'm not a student and do not want their rules to be applied to a normal and not HW or course question.
    7/ I want the infraction to be removed since I did no infraction.

    Regards.

    Here is a proof the topic was moved by someone.
     

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    Last edited: Sep 11, 2010
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  3. Sep 11, 2010 #2

    cristo

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    The rules state that any question of homework or coursework style must be posted in the homework forum, regardless of whether it is actually homework for a class, or part of your own independent study. That is why your thread was moved.

    You received a warning (which is different from an infraction) as is standard practice when coursework-style questions are posted in the wrong place. This is just a way to point to the rules and to keep a record of it: warnings carry no points, and therefore do not put you in danger of receiving a ban.
     
  4. Sep 11, 2010 #3

    somasimple

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    Are you saying that a member is unable to post a subject that looks like a HW problem?
    How this member is able to know his subject looks like a HW problem?

    BTW, there are tons of subjects that aren't moved but are classroom HW problems:
    an example:
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=427243
    Does that means that some topics are moved when others do not?
    It would mean that a different rule is applied!
     
  5. Sep 11, 2010 #4

    cristo

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    No, I'm saying that if a member wants to post such a question, it should go in the appropriate homework forum.

    I don't think that is a coursework type question, because the member is asking about a more general question, and not for the answer to a specific question. Of course, that is a judgement call.

    It means that threads get moved when they are spotted by a member of staff, or when they are reported to us. Since the staff are relatively small in number, and volunteer their time here at PF, it may be possible that sometimes topics are missed.
     
  6. Sep 11, 2010 #5

    somasimple

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    Sometimes?
    Are you joking?
    Almost 50% of subjects may be moved that way.
    and that one:
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=422902
    It is exactly the same thing: I'm asking for a general answer but it was not moved.
    And quite all the subjects I posted are on the same tune...
     
  7. Sep 11, 2010 #6

    somasimple

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    And:
    https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=8128
    So since I'm not seeking a homework/coursework/textbook related issue then the general rules apply or there is a huge contradiction.
     
  8. Sep 11, 2010 #7

    cristo

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    The second post in that thread says this:

    The main forum rules state:

     
  9. Sep 11, 2010 #8

    somasimple

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    I did not posted such a question since it is nota HW question and I did not posted in the HW forums.
    I'm aware that there is dedicated forums for students but I'm not a student even if I post subjects that look like textbook problems.

    How do you think a neophyte will post a question?
     
  10. Sep 11, 2010 #9

    cristo

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    You're missing the point. All homework/coursework-TYPE questions must be posted in the homework forums, regardless of whether you are a student, or you are doing independent study. I'm not sure how many times I can say this!
     
  11. Sep 11, 2010 #10

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    And no, you were given A WARNING, not an infraction. It carries zero points and it expires! This is more of a note to indicate to other mentors that you have already been told where to post that type of question.

    But what is more disturbing here based on your PM's to me, is the appearance that you are asking for answers only, and not any indication that you wish to learn on how these problems are solved. It is NOT A DEMOTION for something to be moved to the HW/Coursework forum. In fact, we have many dedicated members who are more than willing to spend time and effort to help you solve such problems. So in essence, you will get a more structured response. Members who routinely scan the HW/Coursework forums are already eager to help!

    Your question is a HW/coursework-type question. How do I know this? I've thought these things to my students, and the same type of questions can be found in many intro physics texts. Thus, it belongs in the HW/Coursework forum, even if it isn't strictly a HW/Coursework assignment. Why? If you want to learn how to solve such a thing, that's the forum that will guide you. If you wish to be spoon-fed the answer only, then you've found the wrong forum, and PF isn't for you. It is that simple.

    Zz.
     
  12. Sep 11, 2010 #11

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  13. Sep 11, 2010 #12

    jtbell

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    To make explicit what is implicit in ZapperZ's statement: this is a place for people to learn physics: understand concepts, learn how to solve problems or exercises, etc. It is not a place for people to get work done for them for free.
     
  14. Sep 11, 2010 #13

    Dembadon

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    I'm curious to know why it matters so much to you that your post was moved. Isn't finding your way to a solution the goal? :confused: Why does the sub-forum in which it resides matter?
     
  15. Sep 12, 2010 #14

    Mark44

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    Were your students able to pick up on your cranial emanations?:wink:
     
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