# Tips going rate is supposed to be 15-20%.

#### Ivan Seeking

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I just heard that now the going rate is supposed to be 15-20%.

Okay, now why does the percentage keep going up? For a long time, 10% was the standard. Then it went up to 15%. Now 20%??? :surprised Give me a break; I'll take it "to go". :tongue:

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#### mattmns

I hear that! Those actors will get only 10% from me, and that is only if they are damn good!

#### JamesU

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my family and I will give tips at 20% or more for good service

#### gonpost

Usual rule I've heard is (in restaurants) 10% tip for bad service, 15-17% for average to slightly above, and 20% for amazing service.

at most places in town, they are lucky their tip isn't "stay in school"

#### JamesU

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it's better that 'be cool, stay in school' I've heard that too many times. I bet the people who came up with that got their ***** kicked

#### hypatia

What kills me is, people expecting a large tip at a buffet, or when the tip is included in the bill {20%} at the "fine dining steak house". Doesn't matter if the food/service was good or not.
Now the poor pizza boy... they charge me 4 dollars to bring a pizza 3 blocks to my house, and the kid sticks out his hand waiting for a tip. I explain to him, that it took him 5 mins to get to my house, and that the 4 dollar fee is good enough. Now I think next time he gonna spit in my pizza :yuck:

#### Ivan Seeking

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Yes, and I wonder who really gets the four bucks.

I don't mind when the bill is twenty bucks...I almost never tip less than four or five dollars for a meal, but when you travel this can really add up for more expensive meals and services.

#### wolram

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Ivan Seeking said:
Yes, and I wonder who really gets the four bucks.

I don't mind when the bill is twenty bucks...I almost never tip less than four or five dollars for a meal, but when you travel this can really add up for more expensive meals and services.
You dont know when your in clover you guys, gordon benit, fish and chips
costs about 10 bucks in the uk, and if you go out for a meal the average
per person is twenty bucks, so dont be such skin flints, and spread your
bucks around a bit.

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Why should I pay someone $20 for five minute worth of work? Its not about being cheap. Its about getting ripped off if you ask me. This is more than it cost for the services of a skilled craftsman. Last edited by a moderator: #### Ivan Seeking Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member wolram said: You dont know when your in clover you guys, gordon benit, fish and chips costs about 10 bucks in the uk, and if you go out for a meal the average per person is twenty bucks, so dont be such skin flints, and spread your bucks around a bit. Why did you quote me when I just said that I never tip less than four or five dollars? #### Janus Staff Emeritus Science Advisor Gold Member Ivan Seeking said: Why should I pay someone$20 for five minute worth of work? Its not about being cheap. Its about getting ripped off if you ask me. This is more than it cost for the services of a skilled craftsman.
You know, you've got a point there. I think the problem is in tying the tip to the size of the bill. After all, the wait(er)(ress), does about the same service for you whether you ordered the $10 burger plate or the$50 dollar special.

Maybe the custom needs to be changed to a standard tip per person/order as the baseline.

#### jma2001

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Janus said:
You know, you've got a point there. I think the problem is in tying the tip to the size of the bill. After all, the wait(er)(ress), does about the same service for you whether you ordered the $10 burger plate or the$50 dollar special.

Maybe the custom needs to be changed to a standard tip per person/order as the baseline.
The theory is that waiters who work in fancy restaurants in big cities (where the price per plate is much higher) are under more stress, and deserve higher tips, as compared with waiters who work inexpensive suburban diners.

#### TheStatutoryApe

Gale said:
speaking of tipping, i was watching a news program the other day on it. it was about how so many places now expect you to tip. you really can't go many places without tipping. lots of stores have tip jars and stuff... it does get really riddiculous. and it sucks, because tipping traditionally was for an exceptional job or something, and now we're expected to tip every joe-somebody, just for doing their regular job. and at most of these places, they're employees are paid plenty, (unlike the waitstaff at restaurants,) and tips aren't even accounted for in taxes. but you still look like an ass if you don't put a few coins in their tip jar.
Most of those places I don't usually tip. If it's a coffee house I usually tip a buck, it's like a lesser version of a bar to me. In a fast food type place I usually don't unless they are really nice and actually do more than punch something into a register like the chinese food place next to my work.

#### Moonbear

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TheStatutoryApe said:
Most of those places I don't usually tip. If it's a coffee house I usually tip a buck, it's like a lesser version of a bar to me. In a fast food type place I usually don't unless they are really nice and actually do more than punch something into a register like the chinese food place next to my work.
In the coffee shop, I just tip whatever coins I get back in change if it's to-go (assuming they actually are making something for me, not just pouring a plain cup of coffee...I don't tip for regular coffee to go), unless I'm actually going to sit there for a while, then I leave at least \$1 tip, more if I get more than just a drink.

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