I apologize if this is not the correct subforum for this topic. There are several unsubstantiated claims of speed in fencing, including one on the United States Fencing Association's website. http://usfencing.org/resources/fencing-facts [Broken] (#3) This led to a long discussion in which this forum was referenced, and I was impressed with the knowledge displayed. I have heard several claims regarding the speed of the tip of a weapon. The first is that other than a bullet, it is the fastest thing in sport. Some people even claim to have heard a fencer's weapon break the sound barrier. Unfortunately, there is no evidence of how fast the tip goes, so all arguments break down into speculation. Are there any simple experiments (simpler than a high speed camera) or any thought experiments to go about confirming or disproving either claim? I have a list of the top speeds in other sports if anyone is interested. Another myth is less a myth than an assumption most people make about which weapon is the fastest. There are three weapons in fencing: foil, epee, and saber. Most people specialize in one and argue only its virtue. Many foilists argue that fastest action in fencing is a "flick" in foil, during which a fencer causes his blade to bend around another blade or to obscured target. I think most saber fencers assume saber is the fastest simply because it looks the fastest. The "chest cut" is largely agreed to be the fastest cut in saber, but some people believe it is when the blade hit the opponent's guard and "whips" over that the tip goes the fastest. Some things to note are that the foil is more flexible than a saber and is more tip-heavy. Sabers are more rigid, lighter at the tip, and better balanced. Most people don't consider epee in the running for top speed, and its blades are the heaviest and stiffest. If anyone has any questions, I will be more than happy to clarify.