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Topless Woman Lured Perverts in Police Sting

  1. Dec 30, 2007 #1
    Suppose you see somebody's wallet lying around, and think: "I'll pick this up, so that I can take it to police." It could be a big mistake! Just leave it there, and walk away!

    And be careful with suspicious looking women. Control yourself, no matter how wild they are:

    http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/Story?id=4022717&page=1
     
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  3. Dec 30, 2007 #2

    Astronuc

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    I don't think he's a pervert as much as he is just stupid to do what he did 'in public'. If he wanted to comply with the lady's request, then he should have invited her somewhere private. Certainly he has a point in his favor - that he was complying with her request. :rolleyes:
     
  4. Dec 30, 2007 #3

    DaveC426913

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    That is entrapment.
     
  5. Dec 30, 2007 #4

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    Hey, I remember her from last summer!

    Nah, kidding!

    I've never got the point of legalizing toplessness but nothing more (but I won't complain - if they change that law, I know which way it'll change). Can someone explain the rationale behind this?
     
  6. Dec 30, 2007 #5

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    Males go topless, so to be fair and equitable, some local communities have legalized topless for women too!

    It not so much legalizing toplessness as it is not making illegal, i.e. rescinding a law that makes it illegal. :biggrin:
     
  7. Dec 30, 2007 #6

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    That does sound like entrapment, since she ASKED him to commit the crime. It's not like he saw a topless woman in the park and decided to just wander over and expose himself.

    I really have a problem with the one about the wallets too. An honest person picks up a wallet with the intention of finding an ID inside and calling the owner later (not like you can make a phone call from a subway...no cell signal) finds himself or herself under arrest because they didn't stand in the middle of the platform waving around a wallet shouting "Anybody lose this?!" Now, if they left it out and it had credit cards in it and someone started using the credit cards, then nab them, but just picking it up and not immediately turning it in to someone doesn't constitute a crime, especially if you have no reason to think it just fell out of someone's pocket who is still standing near you. And who's going to miss their train hunting around for someone to give the wallet to?
     
  8. Dec 30, 2007 #7

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    Equality of the sexes. Both men and women can now go topless, neither men nor women can go bottomless.
     
  9. Dec 30, 2007 #8

    Astronuc

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    But she didn't ask him to commit a crime, she asked him to unzip so she could see a certain part of his anatomy. All he had to do was invite her somewhere private. He is guilty of poor judgement and stupidity.

    Any reasonable person would refuse to commit a crime if asked to do so. Yes? No?
     
  10. Dec 30, 2007 #9
    Hey, if a topless woman wanted to see my pee pee, Id show her too!

    Id probably be the first one they arrested. HAAAH!
     
  11. Dec 30, 2007 #10

    Gokul43201

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    Hey, when can we get equality of the bodyparts? :biggrin:
     
  12. Dec 30, 2007 #11

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    Yep, but the reason that entrapment is illegal is that no-one benefits (except the statistics) from prosecuting people for committing a crime that they wouldn't have committed if they hadn't been incited by the law enforcement authorities. It's the job of the law enbforcement agency to detect and prevent crime and to catch the perpetrators not to go round testing the moral scruples of members of the public.
     
  13. Dec 30, 2007 #12
    That's stupid...

    jcsd said it perfectly.
     
  14. Dec 30, 2007 #13

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    Poor guy! Thought he was gonna get lucky and then WHAM! :frown: I think that's what happens to Moonbear's sheep.
     
  15. Dec 30, 2007 #14

    Astronuc

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    I agree with jcsd that it is not the job of law enforcement officials to go round testing the moral scruples of members of the public.

    I say let the poor guy go. Being embarassed in public is enough punishment.

    He should call that woman for a date. :biggrin:
     
  16. Dec 30, 2007 #15
    This shows how screwed up society and especially the law enforcement are. Too many people like to parade around with a wannabe Puritanist jihad mentality. Society and law enforcement should be focusing on ruthless murderers, not this BS.
    Buy a video game that lets you blast off people's head and it's fine, but show your natural skin, and hell breaks loose.
     
  17. Dec 30, 2007 #16

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    The thing is, we don't know if anyone else was in view, or if he was fairly well convinced she was the only one who would see anything anyway. Sure, if someone sees a family picnicking or playing games a few yards away, they wouldn't likely comply, but if she's lying around topless, it may have been a reasonably secluded area where he had no expectation of anyone wandering past who would be offended.

    With that sort of "sting" operation, though, it's probably a good thing he didn't ask her to go anywhere with him, or he might have been arrested for soliciting prostitution or attempted rape or who knows what. At least this way, it was just public nudity.
     
  18. Dec 30, 2007 #17

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    Police officers HAVE WAY TOO MUCH time on their hands. Instead of preventing crime, they setup scenarios to create crime. That makes no ****ing sense.
     
  19. Dec 30, 2007 #18

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    If she testified that he exposed himself to her, then there is no case, since she asked for it. If there are no other witnesses then he may have a good case that he wasn't in public. I hope he has a good lawyer.

    As long as he doesn't offer to exchange money or something else for having sexual relations with her, then there is no crime.

    What the heck is a guy doing exposing himself to a woman he just met, even at her request?
     
  20. Dec 30, 2007 #19
    Why do they CONFINE women who want to go topless just to the parks?

    That's an injustice right there!
     
  21. Dec 30, 2007 #20
    She was topless and probably pretty attractive and he was turned on. A tremendous amount of guys would have done the same thing...
     
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