# [topology] order, intervals

1. Jan 31, 2012

### nonequilibrium

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
It might not be a real topology question, but it's an exercise question in the topology course I'm taking. The question is not too hard, but I'm mainly doubting about the terminology:
2. Relevant equations
N.A.

3. The attempt at a solution
I would think not, unless I'm misunderstanding the terminology. Take the rational numbers and the subset denoted in $\mathbb R$ as $[\sqrt{2},2] \cap \mathbb Q$. It is indeed convex in $\mathbb Q$, but it's not an interval, cause I can't write it as $[q_1,q_2]$ or $]q_1,q_2]$ with $q_i \in \mathbb Q$, or is my notion of interval too narrow?

2. Feb 1, 2012

### tiny-tim

hi mr. vodka!

doesn't "convex" mean that, between any two elements of Y, there's no element in X that isn't in Y ?

3. Feb 1, 2012

### nonequilibrium

Uhu. Which is true if you view that set as a part of the rational numbers, right?

4. Feb 1, 2012

### nonequilibrium

How is that in Q?

5. Feb 1, 2012

### tiny-tim

oops! misread the question!

let me start again …

√2 isn't in Q, so what's the meaning of $[\sqrt{2},2] \cap \mathbb Q$ ?

6. Feb 1, 2012

### nonequilibrium

Well you know what it means in R, right? And then you can interpret it as a subset of Q.

7. Feb 1, 2012

### HallsofIvy

Well, $[-\sqrt{2},\sqrt{2}]$ as a subset of R is not the same set as $[-\sqrt{2}, \sqrt{2}]$ as a subset of Q. The first contains many points not in the second.

8. Feb 1, 2012

### nonequilibrium

but that's not the subset I regarded, I regarded the intersection with Q