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Tornadoes and Ball Lightning

  1. Dec 31, 2004 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    The author makes a lot of strange statements but this is interesting. I am posting this for the descriptions and personal accounts, and certainly not for the theories described.
    http://www.padrak.com/ine/ELEWIS3.html
     
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  3. Dec 31, 2004 #2

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    I have been getting caught up on some of my websites. With the above paper in mind, the first Dec UFO report that I read was this one.

    http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/041/S41111.html

    Many similar reports have peaked my interest for years. Many times the source is seen clearly but remains inexplicable. One of our members reported an encounter with some kind of energetic phenomenon that blew out the spark plugs on his motorcycle. He reported that the electrodes on the spark plugs were burned away at the moment of an energetic burst of light from a bright orb that followed either him, or the highway, or the power lines along the highway, or the tree line, or...
     
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  4. Jan 1, 2005 #3
    I guess one thing I wonder about ball lightning is why I have never seen a home video of it. Look at all the home videos you see of tornadoes. Surely there should be at least one home video of ball lightning with all the camcorders out there these days?
     
  5. Jan 1, 2005 #4

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    The existence of ball lightning is now considered fact by most meteorologists. I'm not sure what pushed this over the edge into the mainstream...maybe it was the giant hole that ball lighting left in the roof of a house in Japan? I know that some Japanese scientists really carried this field for quite a time, and I believe that they provided the final proof in a series of papers including some well documented encounters with BL.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2005 #5

    Ivan Seeking

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    The following link shows an image of two bright orbs captured on video by a BBC news crew, in Worcestershire, England, in July 2003.
    http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41782

    Could this be ball lightning, or perhaps a related or seemingly similar phenomenon?

    See also
    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20020209/bob8.asp
    http://www.prometheus2.net/bl-tokyo.pdf

    I will be posting a new sticky thread that will contain all references found for this subject. In these really ancient things called books, :biggrin:, I have seen many pictures of phenomena thought to be ball lightning.
     
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  8. Jan 2, 2005 #7

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    Plasma balls? You can make those in a microwave oven. My cousin is a commercial pilot. Has seen them many times when flying through clouds. Charges collect on the wing tips and discharge off the trailing edge.
     
  9. Jan 3, 2005 #8

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    From the fact that they "lingered for hours" I would suspect they are solitons (or perhaps one soliton). Study of solitons has proceeded a long way, but AFAIK they are still concentrating on small scale arenas, such as crystals with EM passing through. EM solitons in the upper atmosphere ought to be possible, but I don't know of any research on this.
     
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  11. Jan 4, 2005 #10

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    The first of your links seems to suggest ball lightning will be found close to the ground, and even though I have only skimmed the second briefly, I have seen no mention to ball lightning at altitude. This seems to suggest another phenomenon may be at work in the worcestershire lights and the UFO sighting you provided Ivan.
    A quick google search shows most websites defining it as strictly low altitude occurence (apart from this page, which while very vague mentions sightings from planes http://www.centennialofflight.gov/2003FF/lightning/types.html). I havn't searched in any great depth, but for now my time is limited. I shall do a more comprehensive search later and let you know if I find any reference to ball lightning at altitude.

    I also found an interesting article here: http://www.skeptic.com/BallLightning.html
     
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