Total differential Problem

In summary, the conversation discusses using the total differential of a function with two parameters, x and y, to determine the most accurate parameter to set in a given set point. It also explains the use of the chain rule in determining the partial derivative of the function with respect to y. However, it is not recommended to give a direct answer in the 'homework' section as it hinders the opportunity for the poster to learn from insight.
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Nanu Nana
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Homework Statement


You have two parameters x = 12 and y = 3 set on a machine. The machine generates a function: z (x, y) = 3sin (x ^ 2 + y) y + x ^ 3
Use the total differential of this function in the set point to determine which of the parameters to be set to the most accurate.

Homework Equations


dz = (∂z/∂x) dx + (∂z/∂y) dy
3.Solution
z = 3y sin(x²+y) + x^3
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dz = (3y cos(x²+y) * 2x + 3x²) dx + (3 sin(x²+y) + 3y cos(x²+y) * 1 + 0) dy
dz = (6xy cos(x²+y) + 3x²) dx + (3 sin(x²+y) + 3y cos(x²+y)) dy

I don't understand why (∂z/∂y) = (3 sin(x²+y) + 3y cos(x²+y) * 1 + 0) dy Where did that zero came from ? and 1 ??
 
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So, NN, where is your attempt at solution ?
What would be your ##\partial z\over \partial y## ?
 
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Writing he zero is kind of unnecessary, but it comes from taking the partial derivative of x3 with respect to y. The 1 comes from the y...chain rule.
 
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Megaquark said:
Writing he zero is kind of unnecessary, but it comes from taking the partial derivative of x3 with respect to y. The 1 comes from the y...chain rule.
Did you notice the posting in 'homework' ? It is not good for the poster and it is against PF rules to give such a direct answer: it robs the poster from an opportunity to learn from insight.
 
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BvU said:
So, NN, where is your attempt at solution ?
What would be your ##\partial z\over \partial y## ?
(3 sin(x²+y) + 3y cos(x²+y) * 1 + 0) dy
 
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Megaquark said:
Writing he zero is kind of unnecessary, but it comes from taking the partial derivative of x3 with respect to y. The 1 comes from the y...chain rule.
Oh I see, thank you very much
 
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Nanu Nana said:
Oh I see, thank you very much
You're welcome.
 
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BvU said:
Did you notice the posting in 'homework' ? It is not good for the poster and it is against PF rules to give such a direct answer: it robs the poster from an opportunity to learn from insight.

Nope, I didn't notice. I'll likely avoid answering posts in this section from now on.
 

What is a total differential problem?

A total differential problem involves finding the total differential of a multivariable function. This means finding the change in the function with respect to each of its variables.

What is the purpose of solving a total differential problem?

Solving a total differential problem allows us to understand how a function changes in relation to its variables, which can be useful in many scientific and mathematical applications.

How do you solve a total differential problem?

To solve a total differential problem, we use the partial derivatives of the function to find the total differential. This involves taking the derivative of the function with respect to each variable and multiplying it by the change in that variable.

What is the difference between a total differential and a partial differential?

A total differential takes into account the change in all of the variables of a function, while a partial differential only considers the change in one specific variable while holding the others constant.

What are some real-life applications of solving total differential problems?

Total differential problems can be used to analyze and optimize processes in many fields, such as economics, physics, and engineering. For example, in economics, total differential problems can be used to determine the effect of changes in multiple variables on a company's profits.

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