Can Synthesis of http://harishkukreja.neargeek.net/Synthesis.jpg be Achieved?

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In summary: It is. Thanks for the write up!In summary, the synthesis can be done in 12 steps, but there are some tricky steps involved.
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Hey y'all

I'm wondering whether it's possible for the following synthesis to occur and how?:

http://harishkukreja.neargeek.net/Synthesis.jpg

The thing is, after bashing my head against it for about 2 hrs - I've really gotten nowhere :cry: . A few of the rxn's we're allowed to use are:

Hydrogenation (except you can't undo it :grumpy: )
Halogenation + De
Hydrohalogenation + De
Oxidation (KMnO4)
Ozonation (O3)
Esterification
Amide formation
Reduction (LiAlH4 and/or NaBH4).
Hydration + De (H2SO4 conc/dilu.)

Using dehydration + 2*oxidation + esterification I can change the double bond to the bottom chain. using a similar process also yields the top (though in an isomer form). I'm however badly stuck when dealing with the middle section - further the double reactive sites are also bugging me - and blocking isn't really helping me.

Any help would be appreciated and I will worship you forever o:)
 
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How about cleaving the double bond first, through oxidation. You'll have two carbonyl sites. Note that the left carbonyl created from this is part of an enolate derivative. Using a suitable base, perform the intramolecular condensation reaction, the alpha carbon will react with ring carbon #3 (the other newly formed carbonyl group). This will give you the exact ring structure you need. We'll go on from here.
 
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I'm just going to clarify a bit more...KMn04 oxidative conditions, claisen condensation, and we can go on from there...if you're still around
 
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I'm sorry for the delay - forgot I posted the question on the site :rolleyes:

I figured it out (double checked with an independent source) - and I'll post it as soon I have access to my scanner (~Monday). Turned out to be relatively easy after the 2 tricky initial steps. In total there are 12 steps to the synthesis. I was told there were would be about 10-15 depending on the way one would go about it - so I'm happy with the result. If you can do it in less than 10 I'm interested :cool:

Thanks for your help though.
 
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yeah, be sure to post the results, as I'm sure that many here are interested, I want to see if you're first two steps corresponds with mine.
 
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Here it is - just in skeletal format after dashing it off in a few minutes. If you spot any error, chalk it down to being in a rush - unless of course it's a major error, then please do tell. Ignore the term "possibility" - the synthesis continues from the last diagram to "#1" onwards (I just got lazy to draw the rings for each). See the first message for the inital and final diagrams.
 

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You've got a Bredt's rule violation in there. The dehydration won't work.

http://www.iupac.org/goldbook/B00732.pdf
 
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We were never taught or exposed to Bredt's rule in class (lowly high school kid) - so thank you for pointing that out. What would you suggest I do to rectify the situation?
 
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I dunno. It's a tough question. I came up with an very different route from yours which takes 7 steps, but there are one or two steps that I don't really like myself.

I can't think of an easy solution to your dehydration problem though. Sorry.
 
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since when did they start teaching organic chemistry in high school? I'll try taking a stab at this problem when I have the time.
 
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@ movies: could you please post your 7 step one - would like to see it (don't personally care if it works or not - just would like to learn something from it). Furthermore, just talked to my teacher, apparently he doesn't care about the violation - didn't even expect anyone to find out that problem.

GCT said:
since when did they start teaching organic chemistry in high school?

AP chemistry class - and the teacher is a bit of organic junkie - apparently it was what he did for his masters.
 
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Alright, just don't go trying to pass it off as your own work. ;D

I'd bet you've never even seen 4 of these 7 reactions before.

The problems I see are with the isomers in the Baeyer-Villiger oxidation (it'd probably favor the undesired product) and with saponifying the lactone without saponifying the methyl ester. It might work though...

I hope it's helpful to you.
 

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