The Tricky Antiderivative: Solving the Integral of a Radical Function

In summary: C$$$$ -2\sqrt{2-2 \sin^2\theta} -4\sin \theta + C $$$$ -2\sqrt{2-2(1+u)^2} -4(1+u) + C $$$$ -2\sqrt{2-2-4u-4u^2} -4-4u + C $$$$ -2\sqrt{-4u - 2} -4u -8 + C $$$$ -2\sqrt{-2(2u+1)}
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pierce15
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1. The problem, the whole problem, and nothing but the problem

$$ \int \sqrt{\frac{1+x^2}{1-x^2}} dx $$

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The Attempt at a Solution



I tried a partial fraction decomp, but this obviously didn't get me very far because this isn't a rational function. Is there some kind of ingenious substitution applicable here?
 
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I don't see any way to get an antiderivative. And Wolfram Alpha says it's an elliptic integral. I don't disagree. If it's a definite integral there might be a trick. Is that the whole problem?
 
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Dick said:
I don't see any way to get an antiderivative. And Wolfram Alpha says it's an elliptic integral. I don't disagree. If it's a definite integral there might be a trick. Is that the whole problem?

... I made it up

I've changed the problem to the following:

$$ \int \sqrt{\frac{1+x}{1-x}} dx $$

According to wolfram, this does have a (nasty) elementary antiderivative. Any thoughts?
 
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piercebeatz said:
... I made it up

You are making up HARD PROBLEMS.
 
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Sorry for adding new detail to a previous post by the way, I just remembered that that's a big no-no
 
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Making your own integrals isn't a good idea because you tend not to know if you can solve them. For example: [itex]\int e^{x^{2}} dx[/itex]
 
  • #7
The new integral you made up is solvable however. Do a u substitution.
 
  • #8
piercebeatz said:
... I made it up

I've changed the problem to the following:

$$ \int \sqrt{\frac{1+x}{1-x}} dx $$

According to wolfram, this does have a (nasty) elementary antiderivative. Any thoughts?

Substitute something that would make that square root on the denominator much easier to deal with (or eliminate).
 
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How about the substitution ## x = -2u - u^2##, ##dx = -2 - 2u##

$$ \int \sqrt{ \frac{1 - 2u-u^2}{1+2u + u^2} } (-2-2u) \, du $$

$$ -2 \int \frac{ \sqrt{1-2u-u^2} }{1+u}(1+u) \, du $$

$$ -2 \int \sqrt{1-2u-u^2} \, du$$

Alright, that looks fairly simple, but I'm blanking as to how I should deal with it.
 
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I'd say complete the square and then use a trig substitution.
 
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piercebeatz said:
How about the substitution ## x = -2u - u^2##, ##dx = -2 - 2u##

$$ \int \sqrt{ \frac{1 - 2u-u^2}{1+2u + u^2} } (-2-2u) \, du $$

$$ -2 \int \frac{ \sqrt{1-2u-u^2} }{1+u}(1+u) \, du $$

$$ -2 \int \sqrt{1-2u-u^2} \, du$$

Alright, that looks fairly simple, but I'm blanking as to how I should deal with it.

Why not ##x = 1 - u^2##?
 
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Alright, I completed the square, changing ##1-2u-u^2## to ## 2-(1+u)^2##.

$$ -2\int \sqrt{2-(1+u)^2} \, du $$

$$1+u = \sqrt{2} \sin\theta, \quad du = \sqrt{2} \cos \theta \, d\theta $$

$$ -2\sqrt{2} \int \cos \theta \sqrt{2-2 \sin^2\theta} \, d\theta $$

$$ -4 \int \cos \theta \sqrt{1-\sin^2\theta} \, d\theta $$

$$ v = \sin \theta, \quad dv = \cos \theta \, d\theta$$

$$ -4 \int 1 - v^2 \, dv $$

$$ -4( v - v^3/3) $$

$$ 4(v^3/3 - v) $$

Before I go back and perform the various substitutions, is that correct?
 
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Curious3141 said:
Why not ##x = 1 - u^2##?

That would have truly been a wise choice
 
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piercebeatz said:
Alright, I completed the square, changing ##1-2u-u^2## to ## 2-(1+u)^2##.

$$ -2\int \sqrt{2-(1+u)^2} \, du $$

$$1+u = \sqrt{2} \sin\theta, \quad du = \sqrt{2} \cos \theta \, d\theta $$

$$ -2\sqrt{2} \int \cos \theta \sqrt{2-2 \sin^2\theta} \, d\theta $$

$$ -4 \int \cos \theta \sqrt{1-\sin^2\theta} \, d\theta $$

$$ v = \sin \theta, \quad dv = \cos \theta \, d\theta$$

$$ -4 \int 1 - v^2 \, dv $$

$$ -4( v - v^3/3) $$

$$ 4(v^3/3 - v) $$

Before I go back and perform the various substitutions, is that correct?

Isn't 1 - sin2θ just cos2θ?
 
  • #15
runningninja said:
Isn't 1 - sin2θ just cos2θ?

-.- yes

$$ -4 \int \cos \theta \sqrt{1-\sin^2\theta} \, d\theta $$
$$ -4 \int \cos^2 \theta \, d\theta $$
$$ -4 \int \frac{1+\cos(2\theta)}{2} d\theta $$
$$ -2\Big(\theta + \int \cos(2\theta) d\theta \Big)$$
$$ -2(\theta + \frac{ \sin(2\theta)}{2}) $$
$$ - \sin(2\theta) -2\theta $$
 

What is a tricky antiderivative?

A tricky antiderivative is a type of mathematical problem that involves finding the original function from its derivative. It is considered tricky because it may involve more complex techniques or require multiple steps to solve.

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Tricky antiderivatives are important in mathematics because they allow us to find the original function from its derivative, which is useful in various applications such as physics, engineering, and economics.

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