Solving a Trig Substitution Problem: Incorrect Solution

In summary, the conversation discusses finding an appropriate trigonometric substitution for the integral of x over the square root of a complicated expression. The participants suggest using a trigonometric substitution with either sine or cosine, depending on the value of the expression. However, there is a mistake initially with the substitution, which is later corrected.
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can someone help me find a appropriate trig sub for this problem:

[tex]\int\frac{x}{sqrt(-29-4x^2-24x)}[/tex]

took out sqrt(4)...

[tex]sqrt(4)*sqrt(-29/4-x^2-6x)[/tex]
(i also changed all the negative signs to positive)
complete the square...

[tex]sqrt(4)*sqrt((x+3)^2-7/4)[/tex]

so my trig sub should be sqrt(7/4)*sec(t)-3, but it's incorrect
 
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can someone help me find a appropriate trig sub for this problem:

[tex]\int\frac{x}{sqrt(-29-4x^2-24x)}[/tex]


Is it [tex]\int\frac{xdx}{sqrt(-29-4x^2-24x)}[/tex] or

[tex]\int\frac{dx}{sqrt(-29-4x^2-24x)}[/tex]?

so my trig sub should be sqrt(7/4)*sec(t)-3, but it's incorrect



Try [tex] x=\sqrt{7/4}*\sin(t)-3[/tex]

ehild
 
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It doesn't work with "sin",but it works with [itex] \cosh t [/itex]...

Daniel.
 
  • #4
dextercioby said:
It doesn't work with "sin",but it works with [itex] \cosh t [/itex]...

Daniel.


[tex] -29-4x^2-24x = 7-(2x+6)^2=7(1-(\frac{2x+6}{7})^2) [/tex]
If [itex](2x+6)/\sqrt{7} \le 1 [/itex] then it can be substituted either by sin(t) or cos(t). In the opposite case, the integrand is imaginary and your substitution is OK.

ehild
 
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I don't mean to be picky,but you left out a square root sign...:wink:

Daniel.
 
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dextercioby said:
I don't mean to be picky,but you left out a square root sign...:wink:

Daniel.

Oppps, really, you are right... :blushing:

ehild
 

What is a trig substitution problem?

A trig substitution problem is a type of integration problem in calculus that involves using trigonometric identities to solve integrals.

What is an incorrect solution in trig substitution?

An incorrect solution in trig substitution refers to a solution to an integral that does not match the correct answer or follows an incorrect method of solving.

How do I know if my solution to a trig substitution problem is incorrect?

If you notice that your solution does not match the correct answer or if you have made a mistake in the integration process, your solution is likely incorrect.

What are common mistakes made in solving trig substitution problems?

Common mistakes in solving trig substitution problems include using the wrong trigonometric identity, making algebraic errors, and forgetting to substitute back in the original variables.

How can I avoid making mistakes in trig substitution problems?

To avoid making mistakes in trig substitution problems, it is important to carefully double check your work, use the correct trigonometric identities, and practice solving a variety of problems to improve your skills.

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