Two particle harmonic oscillator

This is known as the "separation of variables" method. In summary, the problem asks how to derive the relation H=H_1+H_2, where H is the total Hamiltonian and H_1 and H_2 are the individual Hamiltonians for two particles subjected to the same potential. The solution involves writing the total wavefunction as a product of two separate wavefunctions and showing that the Hamiltonian can be separated into two equations. This is known as the "separation of variables" method.
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Two particles are subjected to the same potential [itex]V=\frac{m \omega x^2}{2}[/itex].
Particle one has with position x1 and momentum p1.
Particle two has with position x2 and momentum p2.

The problem asks how to show that the Hamiltonian is [tex]H=H_1+H_2[/tex]

I am assuming that it is asking for a way to derive this relation but I'm not sure where to start from?
 
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I may be being pedantic- but it's not possible to say in QM that a particle has position x and momentum p. Is that really how the question is worded?
 
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this problem isn't unnecessarily a quantum mechanical problem, it's just in a QM book
 
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indigojoker said:
this problem isn't unnecessarily a quantum mechanical problem, it's just in a QM book

That's a good point.

Well- in any case- write down the total hamiltonian for the system and see if it can be split into two separate hamiltonians.

In the QM case you will need to write psi=psi(x1,x2) and then use a trial product wavefunction psi(x1,x2)=psi(x1)psi(x2)
 
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Do you mean I should start with the Hamiltonian:
[tex] H=\frac{p_1^2}{2m}\frac{p_2^2}{2m}+\frac{m \omega^2 x_1^2}{2}\frac{m \omega^2 x_2^2}{2}[/tex]
 
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Yes- except you seem to have missed out the + signs. It's p1^2/2m1 + p2^2/2m2 and
mw^2x1^2/2+mw^2x2^2/2
 
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then isn't it trivial to show [tex]H=H_1+H_2[/tex]
 
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indigojoker said:
then isn't it trivial to show [tex]H=H_1+H_2[/tex]

Pretty much. What's interesting though is that you can show that if you make the trial substitution psi(x1,x2)=psi(x1)psi(x2) that the total Hamiltonian separates nicely into two separate equations.
 

1. What is a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator?

A Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator is a physical system consisting of two particles connected by a spring and undergoing harmonic motion. This system is often used in physics and engineering to model various phenomena, such as molecular vibrations and atomic interactions.

2. How is the motion of a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator described?

The motion of a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator is described by the equation of motion, which is a second-order differential equation. This equation takes into account the mass of the particles, the spring constant, and the initial conditions of the system.

3. What are the properties of a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator?

Some key properties of a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator include the oscillation frequency, which is determined by the mass and spring constant, and the amplitude of the oscillation, which can be affected by the initial conditions. The energy of the system is also constant, with the potential energy being converted to kinetic energy and back as the particles oscillate.

4. How does a Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator differ from a Simple Harmonic Oscillator?

A Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator is essentially two Simple Harmonic Oscillators connected by a spring. This means that the motion of one particle can affect the motion of the other, leading to more complex behavior. Additionally, the frequencies of oscillation for the two particles may not be the same, depending on the system's parameters.

5. What are some real-world applications of the Two Particle Harmonic Oscillator?

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