What are the extreme values of the speed for a given parametric curve?

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In summary, when solving for \vec A \times \vec B = -\vec B \times \vec A, it can be simplified by letting \vec B = \vec A_0 and using the properties of vectors. For the second question, the maximum and minimum speed can be found by taking the derivative of the speed formula and setting it equal to zero, leading to the equation \vec v \cdot \vec a = 0.
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First question:
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This first question is kind of weird. I'm not even sure where to go with it. If anyone has a hint, that would be awesome.

From [itex] \vec A \times \vec B = -\vec B \times \vec A [/itex] deduce [itex] \vec A \times \vec A = 0 [/itex]

Can it be as simple as:
let [tex] \vec B = \vec A_0 | \vec A_0 = \vec A [/tex]
thus: [tex] \vec A \times \vec A_0 = -\vec A_0 \times \vec A = 0 [/tex]

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Second question:
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Find the minimum and maximum speed if [itex] x=t+\cos t [/itex], [itex]y=t-\sin t [/itex].

Please allow me to take advantage of the inner space operator for sake of ease while writing the vectors :)

Thus:
[tex] \vec x = <t+\cos t,t-\sin t> [/tex]
[tex] \vec v = <1-\sin t, 1-cos t> [/tex]

So speed is computed as: [itex] |\vec v| [/itex]. Therefore the largest speed values that can occur are when: [itex] \vec v = <1,2> or <2,1> [/itex] and the lowest speed values that can occur are when [itex] \vec v = <1,0> or <0,1> [/itex].

Is this reasoning even correct with this problem?
 
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For the first one, I'm not sure what A0 is, but all you have to do is let B=A in the first identity. For the second, you might want to be a little more rigorous. You can find the extrema of the speed by:

[tex]\frac{d}{dt} |\vec v|^2 = 0[/tex]

And use:[tex]\frac{d}{dt} |\vec v|^2 = \frac{d}{dt} (\vec v\cdot \vec v)[/tex]

Which will lead you to the equation:

[tex]\vec v \cdot \vec a = 0[/tex]
 
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With the [itex] \vec A_0 = \vec A [/itex] I was just trying to show that I was plugging [itex] \vec A [/itex] into the expression. It really wasn't necessary and actually more confusing (I left this out of the homework).

For the second one. Cool :smile: Thank you. That's what I wasn't doing. I needed to find the extrema of the speed not of the velocity vector. I appreciate it.
 

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