# Two questions - Newton's Laws

1. Oct 11, 2005

### Anisotropic Galaxy

A research balloon of total mass M is descending vertically with download acceleration a. How much ballast must be thrown from the car to give the balloon an upward acceleration a, assuming that the upward lift of the air on the balloon does not change?

I get m = (2aM)/(g+a), where g is Earth's gravity, M mass of balloon, and m mass of ballast. It doesn't sound right though.. Can someone please help me with this?

Ok, and as for the other... (very simple)

Two 10-lb weights are attached to a spring scale on opposite sides of each other. What is the reading of the scale? Should it be 10 lbs? Also, what if a single 10-lb weight is attached to a spring scale attached to a wall? Should the scale still be 10 lbs due to equal and opposite forces? Thanks!

2. Oct 11, 2005

### Tide

Why does your solution of the first problem not "sound right?"

3. Oct 11, 2005

### WARGREYMONKKTL

you must use the archimede's equation for the balloon to find out the lift force of the air effect on the balloon. and then use the gravity equation to find the weight of the balloon.and you must know the density of the gas you ut in to the balloon.

for the second one: i am actually don't know what is the "reading" means. but i think if you mention about the force when two weights attached to the spring i think there are no force effect between them.but if it is mention about the middle weight i think in real you can not have the "reading of the scale" .for the "what if" question i can say yes ! if this is a single system-no have anyforce except the force between the objcts in the system. see you!

4. Oct 11, 2005

### Tide

Since the buoyant force does not change when dropping ballast he does not need explicitly to calculate it.

5. Sep 24, 2006

### bananan

Could somebody explain the balloon problem?

Thanks