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UFO over China

  1. Jul 15, 2010 #1

    Ivan Seeking

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    This story is spreading quickly. I believe that the actual video is far more mundane that many online sources suggest. The first video is I think the authentic one. It looks like a missile/rocket launch.
    http://www.longislandpress.com/2010/07/15/ufo-over-chinese-airport-video/ [Broken]

    Next is an example of other photos making the rounds. As near as I can tell so far, the photos were faked in response to the actual event, shown above.
     
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  3. Jul 15, 2010 #2

    berkeman

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    Why do they think it was a US missle? That seems like it would be stranger than just a Chinese missle...
     
  4. Jul 15, 2010 #3

    Ivan Seeking

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    Unless and until the Chinese government admits that it was a missile launch, the conspiracy theorists will have a hay day.

    This happens every time any UFO report hits the news. The crapola comes so thick and fast that the actual and usually mundane event, is often lost in the fray.
     
  5. Jul 16, 2010 #4
    I was wondering if there was a thread on PF about this. I don't know why UFO=Alien to so many people. I think there are possibly many forms of technology that are not common knowledge, and seeing a craft we cannot explain does not rule out humans as the makers.

    I saw some still pictures of this one, but I'll check out the link to the video. Thanks!
     
  6. Jul 16, 2010 #5
    IMHO the photos look nothing like the video...
     
  7. Jul 17, 2010 #6
    Missile, rocket... it seems pretty dull to me. At least people in this forum understand that a UFO is just that, Unidentified, not alien a priori.
     
  8. Aug 3, 2010 #7
    Looks like three jets of propulsion, the flight pattern seems like something that a common rocket could produce ( I'm no rocket scientist! ) - could be anything. Except for a goat - unless the goat had three giant water rockets strapped by duct tape! :biggrin:
     
  9. Aug 3, 2010 #8
    :rofl:
     
  10. Aug 3, 2010 #9

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    Granted, to those who've seen it before, it's fairly typical of a high atmo fuel dump but, as far as UFOs go, in terms of sheer spectacle, I'd call that sighting ... pretty spectacular. Extremely visible, spans a good portion of the sky, long-lasting, clear, obvious and nuanced movement...


    Not sure why you would deliberately post pics that even you are sure are faked. I'd have thought you'd be motivated to preserve a high signal-to-noise ratio on the topic.
     
  11. Aug 4, 2010 #10
    UFO over something.

    UFO here could've been anything from a missile (like someone said) or a child playing with his new toy plane.

    And its the Chinese, honestly, they say anything.

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  12. Aug 4, 2010 #11
    "Az Ördög legnagyobb ámítása, hogy meggyozte a világot: nem létezik."

    But seriously, this is a simple load of ****. Whatever this is, little green men is the last on my list, after an airborne Nessie.
     
  13. Aug 4, 2010 #12

    DaveC426913

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    Did you watch the video??

    I don't think you did.
     
  14. Aug 4, 2010 #13

    DaveC426913

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    What do you mean? Are you concluding the video is counterfeit?
     
  15. Aug 4, 2010 #14
    I didn't. Though I was speaking of "unidentified flying object" (s).
     
  16. Aug 4, 2010 #15

    DaveC426913

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    Yeah well, maybe you should, before passing comment, hm?
     
  17. Aug 4, 2010 #16

    Ivan Seeking

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    Why would I post phoney photos making the rounds on the internet, and compare these to the actual photos/video, in a debunking forum?

    I would expect that to be obvious. Should I type more slowly? :biggrin:
     
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  18. Aug 4, 2010 #17

    DaveC426913

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    Well, yes. I honestly don't understand the purpose. That may be because I am making some assumptions about your intent in posting this thread.

    My assumption was that you'd found some atypically interesting UFO photos (high-quality, clear, etc.) whose veracity was worth examining.

    But to post it along with some fake ones seems to imply that you want the thread to concentrate on counterfeit reports as much as promising reports. I would a have thought you'd try your best to bar nonsense claims from this thread, as they would effectively poison the well.

    (Remember the scene in CE3K when the Air Force made its statement to the people about UFO sightings? Then the mountain man chimes in with "I saw bigfoot once. Had a stride thiiiis long".. The loonie's bigfoot comments instantly cast doubt on the UFOs sightings in the minds of the public, just by their proximity.)

    Anyway, today's PF theme for me seems one of particular obtuseness, so maybe I'm just full of cold cheese...
     
  19. Aug 4, 2010 #18
    The hungarian line I posted was meant to be a joke, from "The Usual Suspects". It's the "The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world that he didn't exist." That sarcasm was meant to dovetail with my next point, which is not that the video is fake, but that the leap to aliens or toy planes or any specific thing is absurd based on the evidence. It's a UFO: it's an object that flew, and remains unidentified. The load of **** is speculating when the Chinese won't confirm the time of day; if they know what it is and it's military, then they'll stay quiet. If it's some natural phenomenon, but they don't know, they'll STILL stay quiet. If it's little green men, or a US spy plane, they'll STTTTILLLL stay quiet for the same reason as previously, namely that they don't want to admit they have no idea what it is.

    I call discussion of something which has no hope of verification by the necessary authorities a waste of time, and a load of ****.
     
  20. Aug 4, 2010 #19
    Oh well, true but still a child's toy is technically an identified object to the airport.
     
  21. Aug 4, 2010 #20

    DaveC426913

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    You input has little to do with the topic at-hand. Watch the video, comment on that.
     
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